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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Gregster said:
Would people be happy with 1080 performance at 1080 prices out of curiosity?
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Not really, for two reasons:

1) Current prices are on the basis of there being no competition and a bazillion miners, so they're much higher than they should be.
2) Being just about able to not quite catch up with nvidia not long before nvidia's next generation is not much competition.

In the general case of like for like in price and performance I'd be looking even more carefully at power consumption/heat generation. If a card requires >350W, I'd need a new PSU as well. The more heat it generates the more cooling I'll need and the more noise I'd have to put up with.
 
opethdisciple said:
I wonder if AMD/Nvidia will eventually some how gimp mining performance on the gaming cards and vice versa for the mining cards?
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Why would they when they can instead sell as many cards as they can make at highly inflated prices? Perhaps they could use the seperation to maintain price inflation on both gaming and mining cards by selling them both as specialised kit, maybe. Also, if they do make two genuinely different versions of their cards then they're going to have some people buying the wrong version and being annoyed at them as a result.

N19h7m4r3 said:
Well the new Mining cards have no display outputs, so that helps for using them for gaming :p
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They seem to be the same price as the same cards with display outputs, so why buy them?
 
Nexus18 said:
Yup exactly why should AMD/retailers care? They are raking it in, especially the retailers with their gouging.
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amd don't earn any extra from price gouging, only the retailers.

it also hurts amds mindshare in the gaming industry, less gpus means less gamers are using amd gpus, means when devs look at % of Nvidia to amd gpus the scale looks even bigger in Nvidias favour, less optimisation for amd, worse performance on their cards in turn.

also, hurts amd a lot.more when the mining boom crashes and the market is flooded with thousands of rx580s for cheap, so people.jud pick them up and don't buy their new cards.
 
zornyan said:
amd don't earn any extra from price gouging, only the retailers.

it also hurts amds mindshare in the gaming industry, less gpus means less gamers are using amd gpus, means when devs look at % of Nvidia to amd gpus the scale looks even bigger in Nvidias favour, less optimisation for amd, worse performance on their cards in turn.

also, hurts amd a lot.more when the mining boom crashes and the market is flooded with thousands of rx580s for cheap, so people.jud pick them up and don't buy their new cards.
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nVidia are in a similar position. There'll be a dump of 1060's and 1070's - largely because there's no AMD cards, so nVidia have benefited from AMD not being able to keep up stock levels, lol.
 
Gerard said:
AMD really haven't hyped Vega at all, :)
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Leave it out, :rolleyes: They've been acting like it's the second coming with revolutions, drummer boy's and poor Volta sign's.

The latest FE promotional video literally claims Vega's going to cure cancer and run the Enterprise holodecks when we invent them.
I was half expecting them to use it to bring Che Guevara back and have him run the Revolution for them...
 
nashathedog said:
Leave it out, :rolleyes: They've been acting like it's the second coming with revolutions, drummer boy's and poor Volta sign's.

The latest FE promotional video literally claims Vega's going to cure cancer and run the Enterprise holodecks when we invent them.


I was half expecting them to use it to bring Che Guevara back and have him run the Revolution for them...
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The amd revolution videos were released before the 480 over a YEAR ago, absolutely bugger all to do with Vega. Remember the fixer videos with amd taking shots at nvidia? The "poor volta" thing was nothing more than that. The Fe promo video is basically showing what it can do for "prosumers", gaming never even enters into the video in any form, if anything its hyping a new product line that's priced between a high end gaming card and an expensive workstation card. Show me all the gaming benchmarks amd have released for RX Vega? None out there, as usual its the forums that have been doing most of the hype with clickbait tech sites fueling it. Same goes for pretty much any gpu launch in the last 15 or so years.
 
That Jerico guy is live streaming tests with the card on youtube atm. He isn't impressed with the heat..has a huge ghetto rig set up to blow and suck extra air over the card.
 
Pretty high clock if that is right - he still doesn't seem very impressed with it though.

Massive amount of cooling to get 1650MHz and still running really hot and not performing that amazing really.

EDIT: From what I've seen so far seems to be performing between a 1070 and a 1080 a lot of the time but his setup doesn't seem to be optimal.
 
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Most around here will know me as an AMD supporter due to liking there Price/performance. So far i am seeing not much performance but hopefully the gaming cards are priced well and perform good at there price points. Vega so far is disppointing and i don't know what they have been doing all these years. AMD have never been this far behind so i am hoping they have an ace up there sleeve or we will all be paying stupid amounts for the next few years until something improves. Really don't want to be paying out for mid range performance at high end prices.
 
Gerard said:
The amd revolution videos were released before the 480 over a YEAR ago, absolutely bugger all to do with Vega.
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You're not remembering it right, It was for both, Polaris and Vega

Remember the fixer videos with amd taking shots at nvidia? The "poor volta" thing was nothing more than that.
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The Fixer video's were not related to the Drummer boy video, It was a Vega video with big Radeon Rebellion signs and even a poor Voltage sign purposely made to hype up Vega and imply that it's not only Pascal that will be outperformed but Volta as well.

The Fe promo video is basically showing what it can do for "prosumers", gaming never even enters into the video in any form,
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I didn't say it did I simply said it was hyping Vega like the second coming in a jokey way, At the end of the day yes the Internet and clickbait sites are a problem, but implying that it's them doing all the hype when we have all the AMD hyping just a click away is pointless.


Vega Revolution
https://twitter.com/radeon/status/823213912770351104?lang=en-gb

After the Uprising

Which is full of Radeon Rebellion posters, Poor Volta signs and the MAKE SOME NOISE message at the end, But they're not hyping??


A completely unreleated Fix3r video.

 
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