Again more proof that there isn't any 'gaming' driver included it is the same pro driver with few additionsthis been posted yet? 'Placebo Mode' LMAO
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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This is a strange post, from someone whose time spent posting about GPU's rivals a part time job
I have also spent a large amount of time gaming as there is so little of interest on the forums lately.
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this been posted yet? 'Placebo Mode' LMAO
From what I understand people are misunderstanding the game mode. All its doing is switching the software from the pro feature set to the Relive setup with gaming features.
It does mean performance for gaming
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he tested, showed results, not the case.
why bother having this 'feature' enabled if it does nothing?
I like them as well; looks wise and for multi GPU when not water cooling.
I'd love a RX Vega card with the build quality of the Frontier Edition, and for once AMD's blower is better than NVIDIA's; according to Gamers Nexus' tests anyway. Just the GPU package is far too hot still.
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Should have been "doesn't"
Like I said switching to game mode just allows the user the gaming software Relive like Recording, or Overclocking, the pro mode has Pro features software.
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I wonder if Pro Mod just removes stuff like Wattman because it's programs like these that usually give you a crash or a fail if something gives way in the crimson Suite. Then for gaming give you full control again. Could be the reasoning. I really did think there would be more to it and wouldn't be surprised when the Rx Vega arrives something changes. For now Placebo mode it is
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I can't fathom what AMD think they're doing, This reminds me of the auto overclocking feature on Ryzen which does virtually nothing from what I understand. There was a big hoo hah about that but it turns out all it did was add a 0.1 ghz overclock regardless of which Ryzen 7 chip you had, Is that still the case? Regardless this is just as confusing. It sounds like they're pulling a Grenada driver's on release scam.
I'm hoping for magic drivers being released as much as anyone, but this pro vs gaming modes kind of sounds like you can fiddle with the card to overclock, set frame targets, enable chill, etc in gaming mode but then this might not be stable or cause too many memory errors when using it for pro activities so you just simply hit a button and its returned to stock and stable settings.
Like afterburner's saved profiles (I have a gaming profile and a mining profile) or having both switchable bios on an AMD card with the exact same bios but only one is over-writable so you always have a stable backup.
So the only difference you should see in gaming mode is the result of whatever settings you manually adjusted.
Like afterburner's saved profiles (I have a gaming profile and a mining profile) or having both switchable bios on an AMD card with the exact same bios but only one is over-writable so you always have a stable backup.
So the only difference you should see in gaming mode is the result of whatever settings you manually adjusted.
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Saw some vid on vega rasterization, sounds a big deal 
but no idea what it is, hope they can put it in for rx. Would any game use it if its unique or it'd work anyway
http://www.pcgamer.com/what-to-expect-from-the-next-generation-of-graphics-card-memory/
If Star Citizen is coming out the same time as Vega they include it free to make up for the delay
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30709453
Vega never deserved to be a SF2 boss imo, I have to question Su's judgement from the outset on that one
but no idea what it is, hope they can put it in for rx. Would any game use it if its unique or it'd work anywayhttp://www.pcgamer.com/what-to-expect-from-the-next-generation-of-graphics-card-memory/
If Star Citizen is coming out the same time as Vega they include it free to make up for the delay
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30709453
Yup, they're proper streetfighters whereas AMD are still in kindergarten
Vega never deserved to be a SF2 boss imo, I have to question Su's judgement from the outset on that one
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The card is for machine learning etc and it has just a "game mode". Is not a gaming card, nor is advertised as gaming card.
When you (plural) comprehend the above sentence which is written in plain English??????
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Your posts are just becoming more and more aggressive man. Maybe lay off the pedal a little eh.
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then why does it have the section, I Just Want to Game, on the product page, won't get that on the Instinct page would ya.
one of two things will happen.
AMD will have made their biggest mistake in history and the card will be a total failure.
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Mainstream reviewers are going to be very red faced insisting there is little more performance to be had, that this is pretty much it.
AMD will have made their biggest mistake in history and the card will be a total failure.
Or.
Mainstream reviewers are going to be very red faced insisting there is little more performance to be had, that this is pretty much it.
I think this may have something to Vega's lackluster performance http://digiworthy.com/2017/06/30/amd-vega-frontier-tile-based-rasterizer/
Hopefully with this enabled the gap will close, and in the future coupled with FP16 based effects, may push the card ahead. TBH though Like HBM and the interposer on the Fury line, and now with this card using infinity fabric. The phrase pipe cleaner product again springs to mind........
"AMD itself indicates that a TBR runs under Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer, although Tile Based Deferred Rasterization (TBDR) can be used as a fallback in the Immediate mode. It’s all up to drivers to make a decision."
AFAIK currently draw stream binning is left to the application developer to choose which method works best for them (I'm not sure if AMD are planning on some kind of driver implementation to force it and/or as a fallback) and no applications are currently coded "Vega aware" in that respect if so that is a pretty big fat fail to be frank for two reasons - with current applications that adds extra complexity to getting it working and while it might have some long term strengths as a direction that won't be helping Vega and even assuming optimistic take up of that functionality the lead time before Vega GPUs are going to fully utilising that capability they will have had their day and Navi and Volta will likely go for a bit different implementation yet again.
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Thankfully AMD are making good money on 400/500-series sales, because I doubt they're going to make much (if anything!) on Vega!!
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