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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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now its all down to price, personally Im not too bothered its around 1080 performance, but it will have to be cheaper for me to jump. Especially if it drinks electricity for fun.
 
Top RX Vega needs to sit between the 1080 and 1080Ti at a decent price for me to bite. Pricing matters, power not so much; I still have a 1000W PSU from my SLI 980Ti's in.
 
I don't like jumping to conclusions, but oh dear oh dear oh dear, AMD going from bad to worse it would seem. Only thing that would save it now is price, but there is no hope in hell this card will be less than £400, not a chance.

What are they playing at with these mind games also?? why hide monitor types, machine rig details, which PC is which?? seems like they have completely lost the plot on this one. Are they to embarrassed by Vegas disappointing performance that they are ashamed to give out proper figures for people to digest.

Just incredible, roll on Volta, will put my hard earned money to an XB1X and maybe Volta on launch if PC gaming and hardware gets back on track. And lets be honest here, PC at the moment is a totally gash platform, well overpriced and so much crap out to play anyway. 4k HDR OLED and PS4 Pro/ XB1X is the way forward.
 
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Erik13 said:
Rtg is important for apus so i doubt they will sell it completely. Maybe certain parts of it, especially the ones that are associated with dgpu market
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AMDPower said:
AMD have goofed, and this is coming from AMD FAN lol

I would right about now be getting the ban hammer ready at AMD gpu design division. Heads need rolling. This is almost worst case scenario type performance.

I hope this is wrong.
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Something clearly went wrong:
A) Design screw up that wasn't detected until too late
B) GF still have major issues The RX580 with a slight clock boost is hideously inefficient, far worse than thr NV 970 built with older technology on a larger 28nm process.
C) Some combination of the above.
 
Well it better be £400 or less or it is going to be a laughing stock of a product!

trouble is, Nvidia will just drop the 1070/1080 prices which they can do as the 1080 will have been out...14+ months by the time this is out!!
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
I don't like jumping to conclusions, but oh dear oh dear oh dear, AMD going from bad to worse it would seem. Only thing that would save it now is price, but there is no hope in hell this card will be less than £400, not a chance.

What are they playing at with these mind games also?? why hide monitor types, machine rig details, which PC is which?? seems like they have completely lost the plot on this one. Are they to embarrassed by Vegas disappointing performance that they are ashamed to give out proper figures for people to digest.

Just incredible, roll on Volta, will put my hard earned money to an XB1X and maybe Volta on launch if PC gaming and hardware gets back on track. And lets be honest here, PC at the moment is a totally gash platform, well overpriced and so much crap out to play anyway. 4k HDR OLED and PS4 Pro/ XB1X is the way forward.
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If AMD have a Lemon on their hands that is unfixable in the short term, then it is not easy to market. Giving out completely BS performance figures will only end up making AMD look worse. If the the rX Vega is no better than the 1080, which seems pretty much guaranteed at this point, then they can't really hide that. Their best strategy is now ti simply market Vega as a 1080 competitor but works with freesync monitors which are cheaper. Hecne their demo, you can't tell the difference between a 1080 and Gsync monitor vs an RX Vega and freesync monitor.
 
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If AMD have a Lemon on their hands that is unfixable in the short term, then it is not easy to market. Giving out completely BS performance figures will only end up making AMD look worse. If the the rX Vega is no better than the 1080, which seems pretty much guaranteed at this point, then they can't really hide that. Their best strategy is now ti simply market Vega as a 1080 competitor but works with freesync monitors which are cheaper. Hecne their demo, you can't tell the difference between a 1080 and Gsync monitor vs an RX Vega and freesync monitor.
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Reading the subreddit, apparently you can. which is a real shame.
 
D.P. said:
If AMD have a Lemon on their hands that is unfixable in the short term, then it is not easy to market. Giving out completely BS performance figures will only end up making AMD look worse. If the the rX Vega is no better than the 1080, which seems pretty much guaranteed at this point, then they can't really hide that. Their best strategy is now ti simply market Vega as a 1080 competitor but works with freesync monitors which are cheaper. Hecne their demo, you can't tell the difference between a 1080 and Gsync monitor vs an RX Vega and freesync monitor.
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Yes this would be a good tactic, but they are going to have to price them really aggressively for this to work.
 
Jono8 said:
Well it better be £400 or less or it is going to be a laughing stock of a product!

trouble is, Nvidia will just drop the 1070/1080 prices which they can do as the 1080 will have been out...14+ months by the time this is out!!
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tat is why I doubt AMD will price the RX Vega that low. They can't beat Nvidia on price with HBM memory with a larger chip out this late. Nvidia can happily lower costs and still have a much healthier profit margin. In a race to the bottom AMD will loose a price war. AMD are strapped for cash, Nvidia have stacks. Nvidia could happily sell Pascal cards at a small loss per unit from this point and still have the most successful and profitable GPU launch ever. Instead, if AMD price it the same or a slightly more than the 1080 then they probably get the same sales to the diehard AMD fanboys, and freesync owners. After all, if you have a freesync monitor you probably don;t mind paying $50 more for a 1080performance card that works with your monitor. If these people have edited this long for Vega then they might as well suck up the cost.
 
benjii said:
Well it does have 1080~ performance, so it needs to be competitive.
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TNA said:
Oh man, if it is true that RX Vega "equals or is close to gtx 1080 performance" it will be so disappointing unless prices for under £400.
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Chrisc said:
now its all down to price, personally Im not too bothered its around 1080 performance, but it will have to be cheaper for me to jump. Especially if it drinks electricity for fun.
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1080 performance is the absolute worst possible outcome in which case it will be sub £400 guaranteed, I'm thinking either between 1080/1080ti or just behind 1080ti and in either case improved with drivers like the 7970 was.
 
AMDPower said:
AMD have goofed, and this is coming from AMD FAN lol

I would right about now be getting the ban hammer ready at AMD gpu design division. Heads need rolling. This is almost worst case scenario type performance.

I hope this is wrong.
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I agree with you, I root for the underdog, I like AMD stuff, but if this is all that they have to offer they will deserve all the bad press they will receive, I mean even admitting that it's "cheap" making it acceptable for 1080ish performance, that architecture is really bad, I mean Fiji wasn't great but it wasn't terrible, wasn't the best architecture, but this just surpasses Fiji in a bad way and by a mile. What were they thinking ? lol Something went terribly wrong down the line somewhere, at this point they would have been better off not releasing Vega at all for the consumer market, keep Vega for pros only and pass on another enthusiast grade cycle.
 
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D.P. said:
After all, if you have a freesync monitor you probably don;t mind paying $50 more for a 1080performance card that works with your monitor. If these people have edited this long for Vega then they might as well suck up the cost.
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Sums up my position exactly ;)

I might just stick with my FuryX as it seems to run most things fine on my Acer XR341CKB
 
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The cheapest 750w PSU on here, is this one :-

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Chrisc said:
yeah i guess so. hopefully there will be more info from the event in Hungary
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There you go, it was just 2 machines one is Gsync, one is Freesync, you got to try both of them and that's it, they didn't tell people which is which.
There were some cool giveaways for answering questions tho (Ryzen 5 for some lucky guys)
 
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