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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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I bought a 1080 a few months ago, couldn't wait any more on the AMD response and looks like the decision didn't punish me. Not that what AMD have offered is bad, just no better than the 1080 at the moment.

ti does seem that the huge increases in performance that were apparent every generation of GPu in the 90s and 00s are over. Just nice incremental improvements. NO bad, as it means you can settle on a card for a good few years now as opposed to watching at the new cards and AAA titles made your existing GPU redundant 12 months later - ha
 
justbeingmiko said:
I bought a 1080 a few months ago, couldn't wait any more on the AMD response and looks like the decision didn't punish me. Not that what AMD have offered is bad, just no better than the 1080 at the moment.

ti does seem that the huge increases in performance that were apparent every generation of GPu in the 90s and 00s are over. Just nice incremental improvements. NO bad, as it means you can settle on a card for a good few years now as opposed to watching at the new cards and AAA titles made your existing GPU redundant 12 months later - ha
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Good I did not wait for Vega and bought my 1080TI months ago......
 
Killer7xx said:
Depends how consumer Volta is. If they keep the tensor cores then it'll be power hungrier but if they strip it back just for gaming it'll most likely be more power efficient, although performance may not increase all that much over Pascal.
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Depends what approach they use - with 12FF nVidia supposedly have 9 track libraries as an option which can potentially give them quite a boost to area or performance - I might be wrong but I think they've been using 6 track upto this point.

Also no guarantee they will use 12FF throughout the whole Volta range - it was a desperation measure and the design was originally worked for a smaller node.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
so.... how much power will the APU with Vega draw then.....
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Probably not much as we already saw one of the low TDP ultrabook Raven Ridge CPUs leaked a while back.

I mean,look at how dropping the clockspeeds on Vega56 has improved efficiency over Vega64 - you need to look at Ryzen too. At higher clockspeeds efficiency suffers quite a bit,but below 3.5GHZ it is very efficient.

I don't expect the Raven Ridge IGP to be clocked as high either,so probably it will be in the ideal performance/watt clockspeed range,and rumours hint at a wider design over the previous IGPs.

The major limitation of Raven Ridge will be memory bandwidth.
 
hmmm and some of us were at work .. £450 for an upgradeish from a 290 .. yeah could have done that will have to wait a couple of weeks now till price drops ..
 
Rroff said:
Depends what approach they use - with 12FF nVidia supposedly have 9 track libraries as an option which can potentially give them quite a boost to area or performance - I might be wrong but I think they've been using 6 track upto this point.

Also no guarantee they will use 12FF throughout the whole Volta range - it was a desperation measure and the design was originally worked for a smaller node.
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Volta has never been on a smaller node. It was originally meant to be on 28nm, years ago. Over the years it has come down to so called 12nm (really a high power derivative of 16nm).
 
orbitalwalsh said:
so.... how much power will the APU with Vega draw then.....
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It'll likely be fine. They're only power hungry because of the high clocks necessary to compete with the 1070 and 1080. The APU Vega chips will be clocked much lower and well within the good efficiency envelope (like Ryzen at stock).
 
DragonQ said:
It'll likely be fine. They're only power hungry because of the high clocks necessary to compete with the 1070 and 1080. The APU Vega chips will be clocked much lower and well within the good efficiency envelope (like Ryzen at stock).
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Probably not much as we already saw one of the low TDP ultrabook Raven Ridge CPUs leaked a while back.

I mean,look at how dropping the clockspeeds on Vega56 has improved efficiency over Vega64 - you need to look at Ryzen too. At higher clockspeeds efficiency suffers quite a bit,but below 3.5GHZ it is very efficient.

I don't expect the Raven Ridge IGP to be clocked as high either,so probably it will be in the ideal performance/watt clockspeed range,and rumours hint at a wider design over the previous IGPs.

The major limitation of Raven Ridge will be memory bandwidth.
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hope so :)

again looking at all these reviews on poor drives and some hitting 1850hz overclock but unable to 100% verify the actual speeds due to it and software...
wondering if by any chance that once its all up and running it could be a beastly overclock on water if you dont mind the watts
 
flea.rider said:
hmmm and some of us were at work .. £450 for an upgradeish from a 290 .. yeah could have done that will have to wait a couple of weeks now till price drops ..
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I don't think that's likely.

A home miner I know just bought 16 vanilla Vega 64s at the SRP +£100 price (£549). He feels he got a bargain.

Hashing performance (per watt) might not be great as of now, but a lot of miners are betting on software optimisation, possible BIOS mods and the new mining ISA.

Outside of OCUK and perhaps a few others being charitable to gamers, like they have been with 570s and 580s with lower than demand dictated prices, finding SRP (£450) is likely a pipe dream for the foreseeable future. Unless the new mining ISA is quickly proved to be a bust (doubtful), then these will probably go for £650 or more soon.
 
flea.rider said:
hmmm and some of us were at work .. £450 for an upgradeish from a 290 .. yeah could have done that will have to wait a couple of weeks now till price drops ..
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Yeah if you have a 290X or a Fury you have nowhere to go. If you bought your 290X for £300, your upgrade path is £550 (it was £450 for approx 45 mins lol).

Crazy to think about it that way.
 
pmc25 said:
I don't think that's likely.

A home miner I know just bought 16 vanilla Vega 64s at the SRP +£100 price (£549). He feels he got a bargain.

Hashing performance (per watt) might not be great as of now, but a lot of miners are betting on software optimisation, possible BIOS mods and the new mining ISA.

Outside of OCUK and perhaps a few others being charitable to gamers, like they have been with 570s and 580s with lower than demand dictated prices, finding SRP (£450) is likely a pipe dream for the foreseeable future. Unless the new mining ISA is quickly proved to be a bust (doubtful), then these will probably go for £650 or more soon.
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I think I speak for many of us when I say, "**** miners!"

This is my only bloody hobby and they have destroyed it utterly and completely.
 
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