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Not being a rabid Nvidia fanboi means being biased? Ok.
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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Not being a rabid Nvidia fanboi means being biased? Ok.
So where are we now? I check in with this thread and every day it seems we've swung from genuine enthusiasm and great hope for Vega to utter devastation at what a complete failure it will be. I've always been an ATI/AMD guy but are people putting far too much expectation on their drivers? I mean Steam released asynchronous reprojection for the Vive last Oct/Nov and here I am still waiting for drivers that actually enable it for my 390. NVidia had day one support it.
I don't know, I have only ever watched a two of his videos and they seemed reasonable enough to me, but I have seen people here call him AMD TV and worse.
It's looking like it will be between a 1080 and 1080ti in performance levels. But it's still all speculation for now, nobody knows for sure what difference the drivers will make.
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I still say it's too early to draw any conclusions. The entire spectrum of outcomes is still possible. Some way more likely than others, I hope it's surprising in a good way.
Bizarre though, the lack of any damage limitation given the FE reviews. If I recall correctly AMD were doing a load of announcements after the release of Ryzen, to explain performance deltas or explain how things are. Well find out why soon enough.
Bizarre though, the lack of any damage limitation given the FE reviews. If I recall correctly AMD were doing a load of announcements after the release of Ryzen, to explain performance deltas or explain how things are. Well find out why soon enough.
Not necessarily - much of the hold back frequency wise from what I've seen has been the properties of GF's 14nm - I was reading up on the development notes on an FPGA the other day where the samples from GF were at best a full 20% down on max attainable speed than the variants made at TSMC and Samsung.
Its possible its finally refined enough they are getting a bit better speeds out of it.
Well that's better than the struggling to beat a 1080 assumption i saw everyone coming to before lol. TBH I did at first expect it to trade blows with a 1080ti FE with the expectation that they made a lot of improvements to the arch but it seems more than likley its just going to beat a 1080 and gain some ground on the 1080ti with DX12 and Vulkan titles. 1080Ti can overclock so i think the 1080ti is safe.
It's a shame because i was actually expecting a tad bit more performance than this from the top end card.
This guy optimized monero Vega, supposedly his "Vega FE is twice as profitable mining Monero as a GTX 1080Ti mining Ethereum"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6lz1q6/vega_owners_club/djxpnhn/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6lz1q6/vega_owners_club/djxpnhn/
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It's likely AMD have broken up the pipeline into smaller stages which would allow them to turn up the clocks.
There goes the reasonably priced idea gone, What price AMD sets wont really matter if they are gobbled up by miners market price will soar
That's crazy that means RX Vega is going to be even more so by a significant amount be more profitable than anything nvidia has.
So expect higher RX Vega prices and hard to find stock i guess.
AMD and Nvidia are probably working on segmenting mining away, somehow.
In the mean time if Vega FE is profitable than AMD will happily skew production to that line, starving the gaming market but increasing their revenue...
Well im even more sure of my 1080ti purchase now. The prices are going to skyrocket unless there is a difference in mining performance between RX Vega and frontier edition, rx vega being slower, which is highly doubtful. Stinks for those wanting a proper performance AMD gpu and for AMD who will have a hard time gaining a foothold i gaming. Why optimize for a GPU no gamer has due to cryptocurrency mining?
I was lazy and wrote 1 liners, so it doesn't make any sense.
What I was trying to say is that in his video he points to the videocardz article where they mention that the benchmark doesn't detect overclocked unreleased cards properly (Hence some of them have a "+" sign). That to me means that it would detect the base clock of the card not the maximum boost clock (since that is an overclock). Coupled with the graph adored showed where he put the runs in chronological order (and it making no sense to overclock then downclock); I'm speculating that it has a base clock of 1630 MHz; and it seems AMD are trying to get power delivery working well so that it can boost higher.
If the benchmark can properly detect boost clock of an unreleased card, then it seems that AMD is able to get the card to consistently boost to its max speed on at least an open air test bench (could be in a caase for all we know), which is better than what we saw the FE do at PCper. but then it leaves a big question as to what the overclocked scores are.
Maybe AMD predicted this and delayed vega so that it was closer to the Eth doubling in difficulty making it less profitable to buy the RX vega cards
or maybe they have RX vega mining editions.Who knows.
The card isn't out yet mate.
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oh man, this damn mining craze. We just can't catch a break on the AMD side.
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Uhmmm, yeah that was my point lol.Actually you can use road cards for racing on the track.
I can drive my 14 year old BMW 318i on a track but it's not predominantly a racing car, you can use a FE to game but it's not predominantly a gaming card.
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