Just for clarity, I was stating it was the original stance of Hamas in response to Dolphs sensational misrepresentation
Ah fair enough, my bad for jumping in.
Exactly.
The anti Israel = anti semitism agenda
- Thread starter NVP
- Start date
- Status
Ah fair enough, my bad for jumping in.
Exactly.
Soldato
"Even if Hamas is operating out of a civilian building...".
Full stop.
Hamas is getting civilians killed if they are trying to attack Israel and hide behind civilians.
Full stop.
Hamas is getting civilians killed if they are trying to attack Israel and hide behind civilians.
A bank was getting robbed, the robbers hid behind the bank staff, so we blew up the whole bank and all the hostages to stop it being robbed.
That is never ok. It’s a war crime. Israel needs to be stopped.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 30 Jul 2013
- Posts
- 29,580
A) Why would various different media outfits share a building with Hamas? So far all the journalists based out of there said they never saw anything suspicious.
B) Even if they were there, Israel only claimed there were “military interests of the Hamas intelligence” in the building, not a rocket launching point.
Associate
- Joined
- 17 Sep 2018
- Posts
- 1,476
Okay so say for a moment terrorists are in your childrens school. Do you blow up the school and all the kids to get the terrorists?
Who involved the kids and put them at risk?
The use of civilians as a human shield is a breach of the Geneva convention and a war crime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_(law)
Soldato
As is failing to take adequate steps to prevent loss of civilian life, and judging from reports the Israeli courtesy knock before bombing is far from a standard approach.
All the Islamic militant groups do this.
They don't care about the Geneva convention. Neither do the Islamic states either really.
Soldato
Fair enough.
But don't post about the killings when your mate Biden says it's ok.
That's unless you're going to have a go a biden as well for letting it happen.
If that was someone else(starting with a T). You would all over it and you know it.
Last edited:
Soldato
There way of taking out leaders when in the open blowing up a resedential house at 2am and killing children is not the way.
47 children killed now more pulled out the rubble early morning and 174 Palestinian killed.
Hamas are no saints but this is one way traffic Gaza is defenceless.
47 children killed now more pulled out the rubble early morning and 174 Palestinian killed.
Hamas are no saints but this is one way traffic Gaza is defenceless.
Yes, but when the two interact, it becomes complicated. I tend to lean towards responsibility being on the people who are using the human shields as being the reason those people are hurt, but I accept that's a subjective view and others disagree. The real problem comes when people (as they often do) apply differing standards to the behaviour when Israel is involved, holding Israel to a higher standard than other countries, or holding the Palestinian authorities to a lower standard than they normally would.
Israel has a history of using Palestinian civilians as human shields as well, although their own legal system has told them to stop doing so and it's no longer policy as it was 20-30 years ago
For the avoidance of doubt, I condemn all use of human shields, and place responsibility on those doing so if those civilians get hurt.
First article 3 years old the other is a like a gang fight. But wait because it's Muslims, it's terrorism.
When will the international community get involved?
Never unless it benefits them or unless it becomes so bad they have no choice, normal people go on marches and demand but the people in power will not do anything.
Most don't want to go to war with the US, a lot will even back what they say or do (UK)
US is fine to start a war with everyone (I can't even count the number of wars they have started or backed) but they never get stopped that is the main issue, everything comes down to the US.
UN?
No chance, have they ever done anything other than just talk? I no longer see a point in it existing.
the only way this issue can be resolved IMO is 2 state with each getting part of Jerusalem (but both parties are stubborn) or the same way as SouthAfrica.
We have the UN in name but no real power, Useless
I agree we need a REAL UN with so many issues Around the world, so every nation is accountable for what they do. like people are (most people are)
I thought it was 1.8 billion people, maybe im wrong
Last edited:
The foundational history gives understanding, unfortunately.
Soldato
Ah thats my bad didn't check the date, no probs il find more from the last 2 weeks.... but yea Islamic sects are like gangs.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/05/13/niger-eid-attack/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-56975652
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ombing-kabul-mosque-kills-worshipers-77685345
- Status