Soldato
There is a huge difference from getting involved and blocking a statement.
Biden hasn't even got any envoys there.
And it will take weeks to do so.
The anti Israel = anti semitism agenda
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There is a huge difference from getting involved and blocking a statement.
Biden hasn't even got any envoys there.
And it will take weeks to do so.
Caporegime
Do you think his daughters might have his ear?
You continue trying to excuse or justify racist behaviour by not applying the same standards to Antisemitism as are applied to other forms of racism.
I reject that line of thought.
It's not hard.
But he said he hopes it will end soon. We just need to believe more right?
It will never happen, haven't all the Republicans and half the Democrats signed a letter stating they support Israel's military aid regardless of any human rights violations?
If it did - lets be honest, it would be deemed the most anti-Semitic thing ever to have happened on this planet.
This whole saga only has one ending. But as long we make sure criticism of the Israeli government is completely equal to other bodies - we can rest easy whilst millions of people are sandwiched and subjugated into a living hell.
Be interesting to see how some on here would have reacted (on OcUK if it existed back then) to the build ups of segregation and Apartheid - the cynic in me thinks some would try and downplay/deflect.
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Your continual conflation of the highly contested, recent broad definition of anti-Semitism as out-and-out racism and indiscriminate flack cannon of accusations calling others racist based on such is the the issue I have.
I called out legitimate racism of Jewish people on a previous page, which would fall under the traditional bracket of anti-Semitism which is widely regarded as racism.
Your defensive misuse of the term racism is quite negative, also outlined by Dowie previously, and appears to simply be a fall-back. Please, continue to call out what has debatably been referred to as modern anti-Semitism all you wish, but refer to it as such and stop calling others racist when they are quite obviously not and are quite apparently pro-human rights.
You do a disservice to victims of racism.
Probably push them towards Russia or even Turkey and result in chaos in the region for awhile as they'd probably go on the offensive while they still had the initiative.
So just to be clear, I'm in the wrong and evil in your eyes for supporting the idea that it's not ok to call jewish people Nazis?
Gotcha.
Soldato
'like' doesn't come into it. and i'm not asking you to defend it. i asked if you were ok with the it, and you've went on to answer that, sort of (quoted below)
respect is one thing, agreeing is another. at no point have i mentioned the jewish people either as a race or religion. i've only commented on the state, or rather the government of israel, much like i don't refer to the german people as a whole but rather the nazi regime. for people to think that it's ok for israel to be able to force the change of definition of a term (antisemitism) is disgraceful and utterly disgusting. and, imo, detracts from those who have suffered from or continue to genuinely suffer from antisemetic abuse. calling the state of israel nazi like for it's behaviour towards palestine is in no way a slur or attack on the jewish race/religion.
i reject the principle that the state or government of israel and the jewish religion/race are interchangeable.
Soldato
You need to read the link and not the head line.
"When council members moved to hold another meeting last week, the US mission pushed back on the effort for the same reason, saying it preferred to wait until Tuesday. After pressure from multiple missions, the US agreed to move up the meeting to Sunday."
What the hell is the old fart up to?
And his party is ripping each other a new one over this.
Soldato
there's the problem. no one is calling jewish people nazis. and now you're going all defensive and acting offended.
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It's a bad situation. And he has never had a envoy in place like the other presidents did.
Truly lacking in judgement.
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Anything is better than nothing.
Even putting a envoy there would be good, but that will take many weeks to pass.
Soldato
Update
"COPENHAGEN, Denmark — US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the US has requested “details” and a “justification” from Israel for an airstrike on a high-rise building in Gaza housing international media outlets."
"Blinken adds that he hasn’t personally seen any information shared by Israeli authorities and therefore doesn’t want to comment on the legitimacy of the strike."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...n-from-israel-on-bombing-of-gaza-media-tower/
"COPENHAGEN, Denmark — US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the US has requested “details” and a “justification” from Israel for an airstrike on a high-rise building in Gaza housing international media outlets."
"Blinken adds that he hasn’t personally seen any information shared by Israeli authorities and therefore doesn’t want to comment on the legitimacy of the strike."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...n-from-israel-on-bombing-of-gaza-media-tower/
Hahaha what a rebuttal! The definition you so freely use is not about calling Jewish people Nazi's, it is about comparing the actions of Israel to that of the Nazis.
You appear to be a clever individual, usually, so I'm unsure of why you choose to discuss in a manner akin to that of a SJW.
I have always found the US to be unduly ‘pro’ Israel in this conflict, where to my mind there are two ‘culprits’ subject to fair criticism.
Hamas; relatively ‘unsophisticated’ and clearly involved with terrorism.
The Israeli State; sophisticatedly and indiscriminately treating swathes of people like they are all Hamas.
Fundamental wrongs on both sides of ‘the fence’ and basically impossible to ‘support’ either.... the only people you can champion are those on either side who want a peaceful resolution.
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