Good episode today, seemed far more complicated task than normal. Only problem I had was that I knew the women leading the men's team was going to get fired from the go, since I remember seeing the trailer and Sugar says ' You're a lightweight, your fired' - Kinda gave it away
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Does anyone else really fancy some stodgy pizza after that episode? I know I do.
Well just watched esp 2, i thought the boys had a good idea with their project but failed with the design i thought the background colours where way off. But as for the girls i couldn't stand the curley haired one, what was with the crying for god's sake lol
They gonna repeat this weeks episode next tuesday. So not all is lost.
You gotta love 100 chickens on 94 pizzas. In fact, if u think about it, even if they had made 500 pizzas, i still think that 100 large chickens wouldve been too many.
You gotta love 100 chickens on 94 pizzas. In fact, if u think about it, even if they had made 500 pizzas, i still think that 100 large chickens wouldve been too many.
I think they should have been made to put a full chicken on each pizza. Just to see what it looked like.
Funniest bit for me was when economics degree holding Alexa couldn't flippin' add up. Or subtratct £9 off £20. Or subtract £9 off £11. Jesus.
Funniest bit for me was when economics degree holding Alexa couldn't flippin' add up. Or subtratct £9 off £20. Or subtract £9 off £11. Jesus.
What I gathered from what Nick was saying (Alan Sugar's weasely sidekick), they were originally planning for 100 of the 500 pizzas to have chicken on, none of the others. So even if they had somehow made 500 bases, there'd still be a whole chicken on 100 of them 
Couldn't agree more.HEADRAT said:
Having said that, I agree with Sugar's eventual choice ..... and with his comment that he's tempted to fire all three of them.
But the girl he fired had been 'hiding' in the background in previous weeks, and really had little choice, this week, but to put herself forward. She got that decision right, at least. Trouble is, if you poke your head above the parapet, someone likely to blow it off.
Project managers on this program don't have an easy time of it. For a start, as PM, you are going to bear a fair bit of the responsibility for losing, and yet you have to "manage" a team, with no real authority, and what's more, the "team" is a bunch of prima donnas many of whom are hopeless, and all of whom have a vested interest in you falling flat on your face.
Where tonight's loser failed, in my view, was that she did very little actual managing. Delegating is fine, but that doesn't mean you dole out tasks, then just do some drudge work and hope everything turns out OK. You have to plan, delegate then monitor, and if necessary, take remedial steps. She didn't seem to have a clue what was happening, or what went wrong.
As for Syed, I'm with Headrat. He knows the buzzwords, but I've seen no signs of any actual ability, beyond the blarney. He's make a good conman, perhaps, and maybe a good salesman, but I've seen nothing to suggest he's multi-skilled enough for the job Sugar has. He's far too ready with blarney, and excuses, and has (so far) shown none of the necssary versatility. Talking fast will only get you so far, then comes time to put up or shut up.
One of the failures tonight was in thinking that they could make 500 pizzas in the time allowed and sell them. Complete shambles in them planning this and no one saying hold on, this is way too much to try to sell.
As for the ordering how anyone could order 100 chickens and forget to state the size is stupidity, as it was asking for what happened in the end. The wholesalers made a killing on the supplied foods due to the mistake they made, as they could supply any size they wanted and rub their hands counting the cash. Also a chicken per pizza that would have been some pizza to see.
The Project Manager deserved to go as she was out of her depth and let this completely go off track.
For the leader of the other team he is in for a fall soon, as he has really annoyed some of his team members and fireworks are ahead there.
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As for the ordering how anyone could order 100 chickens and forget to state the size is stupidity, as it was asking for what happened in the end. The wholesalers made a killing on the supplied foods due to the mistake they made, as they could supply any size they wanted and rub their hands counting the cash. Also a chicken per pizza
that would have been some pizza to see.The Project Manager deserved to go as she was out of her depth and let this completely go off track.
For the leader of the other team he is in for a fall soon, as he has really annoyed some of his team members and fireworks are ahead there.
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Yup. I think we're still sorting wheat from chaff. And we aren't done yet.SCM said:
It'll perhaps get more interesting when the obvious losers have gone and we're left with real contenders .... if there are any. So far, the only one that seems to show promise is Ansell, and we haven't seen that much of him. But so far, he's my candidate for the win. Of course, seeing him as PM may be an eye-opener. Who knows?
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It is a good programme but I can't help feel elements of it are done purely for the camera.
Like Sir Alan not firing certain people, namely Jo, because she is likely to cause more conflict later on, equals higher viewer ratings.
As for the contestants I don't think any of the women deserve to win, far too emotional. The lawyer maybe but she's gone now.
Like Sir Alan not firing certain people, namely Jo, because she is likely to cause more conflict later on, equals higher viewer ratings.
As for the contestants I don't think any of the women deserve to win, far too emotional. The lawyer maybe but she's gone now.
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It was a hard choice, Syed and Alexa both were just asking to be fired, Alexa didn't seem to manage atall, it started of well, splitting the team into two groups, the ones with restaurent and food skills in one team, and the others in the kitchen, but 500 pizzas!
If they were the normal 12" or 16" round ones then 500, split into 6 would have been fine, sell each slice for £1 you can be almost £2000 up on the day. How did they only manage to make 94 bases between 6 of them? They were in the kitchen for around 14 hours, the total effort hours in the kitchen would be approching 84 hours and they made 94 bases, just a complete farce.
The thing i think people are still missing, they had 94 bases, 100 chickens, but chicken didn't go on all of them. They said they have made veggie ones, margarita (spelling?) ones, bolognaise and then chicken. I would be surprised if they actually made more than 30 chicken ones but the numbes were not revealed in the show.
With that many chickens, they knew on the previous day, just after the delivery that they had masses of chicken, why didn't they think of what to do with it? They cooked them all as you saw them throwing them in the bins at the end of the sales day, why didn't anyone think about selling chicken wings / thighs / drumsticks to recoup some of the costs? IDIOTS!
Alexa wanted to spend £500 on advertising and branding. What advertising and branding was needed? you need a menu on a big display, branding only matters if your going to be doing something often, make a business out of it. A one off venture like this is just about keeping costs down and maximising profits.
The Girls team, was it Mani the PM. I thought he did a good job. He did upset one of the girls, I think the one who is an event organiser who thinks she would have strengths in this task, asid from that it went well. The team seemed united during the day they were all in the kitchen, as they all thought Mani was off doing easy work and not helping, gave them a figure of hate to unite for. When it turned out the he had got all the props sorted for the eatery, and menu was written up, costs done etc even the Boys team and Alexa noted how good and appealing the area looked. This team deserved to win.
Syed, thinking more on it, what a plonker. didn't he say something to SAS that when asked to do anything he did it 150% (grrrrrr 150% pet hate of mine, stupid comment to make), I recall when Alexa asked him to go and drum up business by yelling (like street merchants) the prices and getting attention, he wouldn't as he thought it was below him. He came up with all these excuses which just showed he thinks more of his personal image than the task at hand. One of the most selfish and arogant moments in the show. Seconded only by the exit.
"Your a light weight, your fired!, frankly I'm in half a mind to fire all three of you."
The only time i was really aware of the contribution of the other guy in the final three, was how assertive he was when he found out Syed had messed up the food order. He was doing the finance for it, and phoning the PM straight away and limiting her further spending was a good thing, but 2 minuets of clear thought don't make up for the other 2 days.
Syed claimed his skill was in negotiation, thats why the food order was messed up, as he couldn't negotiate. Utter rubbish, he might have had the chinken a few pence cheaper per kilo, but the fact that they over ordered topping and under performed making the bases. Bragging about your experience in restaurents and how great you are, then making such an enourmous mistake should have got him fired.
Favorite moment, Syed holds the door open, exit Alexa, exit other guy, syed turns to SAS, "Thank you for this opertunity to prove myself." exit syed.
SAS "Cocky little ***t!"
don't think that appealed to SAS much
If they were the normal 12" or 16" round ones then 500, split into 6 would have been fine, sell each slice for £1 you can be almost £2000 up on the day. How did they only manage to make 94 bases between 6 of them? They were in the kitchen for around 14 hours, the total effort hours in the kitchen would be approching 84 hours and they made 94 bases, just a complete farce.
The thing i think people are still missing, they had 94 bases, 100 chickens, but chicken didn't go on all of them. They said they have made veggie ones, margarita (spelling?) ones, bolognaise and then chicken. I would be surprised if they actually made more than 30 chicken ones but the numbes were not revealed in the show.
With that many chickens, they knew on the previous day, just after the delivery that they had masses of chicken, why didn't they think of what to do with it? They cooked them all as you saw them throwing them in the bins at the end of the sales day, why didn't anyone think about selling chicken wings / thighs / drumsticks to recoup some of the costs? IDIOTS!
Alexa wanted to spend £500 on advertising and branding. What advertising and branding was needed? you need a menu on a big display, branding only matters if your going to be doing something often, make a business out of it. A one off venture like this is just about keeping costs down and maximising profits.
The Girls team, was it Mani the PM. I thought he did a good job. He did upset one of the girls, I think the one who is an event organiser who thinks she would have strengths in this task, asid from that it went well. The team seemed united during the day they were all in the kitchen, as they all thought Mani was off doing easy work and not helping, gave them a figure of hate to unite for. When it turned out the he had got all the props sorted for the eatery, and menu was written up, costs done etc even the Boys team and Alexa noted how good and appealing the area looked. This team deserved to win.
Syed, thinking more on it, what a plonker. didn't he say something to SAS that when asked to do anything he did it 150% (grrrrrr 150% pet hate of mine, stupid comment to make), I recall when Alexa asked him to go and drum up business by yelling (like street merchants) the prices and getting attention, he wouldn't as he thought it was below him. He came up with all these excuses which just showed he thinks more of his personal image than the task at hand. One of the most selfish and arogant moments in the show. Seconded only by the exit.
"Your a light weight, your fired!, frankly I'm in half a mind to fire all three of you."
The only time i was really aware of the contribution of the other guy in the final three, was how assertive he was when he found out Syed had messed up the food order. He was doing the finance for it, and phoning the PM straight away and limiting her further spending was a good thing, but 2 minuets of clear thought don't make up for the other 2 days.
Syed claimed his skill was in negotiation, thats why the food order was messed up, as he couldn't negotiate. Utter rubbish, he might have had the chinken a few pence cheaper per kilo, but the fact that they over ordered topping and under performed making the bases. Bragging about your experience in restaurents and how great you are, then making such an enourmous mistake should have got him fired.
Favorite moment, Syed holds the door open, exit Alexa, exit other guy, syed turns to SAS, "Thank you for this opertunity to prove myself." exit syed.
SAS "Cocky little ***t!"
don't think that appealed to SAS much