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I’m dreading this summer. The squad overhaul that’s needed is massive. There’s the complication of a World Cup and Wenger will still be in charge. The final hurdle is that Arsenal don’t want to pay the transfer fees for the world class players nowadays.

We need imo, a new keeper, 2 central defenders (Kos is badly starting to show his age and Per’s retiring), replacements for Ozil and Sanchez and a top defensive midfielder. It just won’t be possible in one transfer window, so next season could be a long hard slog for us. Mid table wouldn’t surprise me. Only when the new manager eventually arrives, can we start to look forward.
 
robfosters said:
I’m dreading this summer. The squad overhaul that’s needed is massive. There’s the complication of a World Cup and Wenger will still be in charge. The final hurdle is that Arsenal don’t want to pay the transfer fees for the world class players nowadays.

We need imo, a new keeper, 2 central defenders (Kos is badly starting to show his age and Per’s retiring), replacements for Ozil and Sanchez and a top defensive midfielder. It just won’t be possible in one transfer window, so next season could be a long hard slog for us. Mid table wouldn’t surprise me. Only when the new manager eventually arrives, can we start to look forward.
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I thought you were a fellow Charlton fan Rob?

Of all the teams to jump ship too, ****** Arsenal Globetrotters :p
 
Does Cech need replacing?

Reading today that Arsenal are eyeing up Jan Oblak in the summer.

Gonna be expensive.

I think we are heading in the right direction with all the boardroom level changes at the club. I think Wenger is slowly realizing he is now chief coach rather than manager.
 
Yes he does need replacing, but I'd be very surprised if you got Oblak. If he's on the market there will be a few top clubs in for him.
 
Why not give Ospina a proper run out in the first team?? I know he’s not great but what do you expect if you only play a handful of games?? Not only that cup games are the only times I see him play for us.
He can’t be any worse than Cech and maybe a few games will give him the confidence he needs??
 
Cech is past his best, he has moments of greatness but overal we isn't up to the task now. The defence need to protect him better as they have been pretty woeful this season. Mustafi seems to switch off a lot, Kos is ageing, Sead gets picked after just about everyone, Bellerin is quick, Monreal is playing well but for how long.

I don't understand why we let Shez join Juve, I though when he came back it was his time..again.

Stick in a bid for Butland? Or let Ospina and Macey have chance.
 
Robbo said:
Yes he does need replacing, but I'd be very surprised if you got Oblak. If he's on the market there will be a few top clubs in for him.
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I think Arsenal could sign Oblak but i dont think they should. He'd cost close to 100mil which would be insane given their defence / midfield. Id go for Handanovic of Inter myself or if Madrid do sign Alison of Roma then Navas.
 
Ospina is no where near good enough in my opinion. Cech does need replacing but not with him. Definitely need a couple of defenders too but most importantly a proper DM.
 
Ospina and Martinez are not of the required standard, age is catching up with Cech fast... and for some reason we let the most promising of our keepers go to Juve for £11m in the summer.
 
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He had his time and probed to be error prone.

I was very surprised that Juve wanted him.

Is he actually num 1?
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He then had two very solid years at Roma where it was recognized by many that he had matured and improved drastically as a goalkeeper. He is currently playing second fiddle to Buffon but was picked up by Juve to be Buffons successor when he retires at the end of the season.

Either way he is undoubtedly better than Martinez and Ospina, had a great love for the club, and was coming into his prime years after two very solid years at Roma. Selling him was short sited at best, I'd argue it was borderline negligent.
 
Ospina is nowhere near good enough, I'd rather give the youngsters a run in then let Ospina anywhere near our goal. Cech is still a decent number 1, but not for a team with little to no defence solidity.

Szczesny has improved massively since he left. I think he did an interview with The Telegraph where he mentioned how much better the coaching was in Italy compared to arsenal.
 
Damn it. Lacazette out for six weeks after knee surgery. Needed him for the Europa ties. Should get through Ostersunds easy enough but he won’t be back for the last 16 and we could draw a quality team in that.
 
I hope Wenger steps down at the end of the season.

Arsenal have more resources than Spurs for example but Pochettino is building them up.

We are sliding.

I don't think it matters which quality players Sven brings in to the club. The manager is not coaching them properly and isn't able to galvanise the team.

For example as pointed out previously Szczesny has improved as a player since leaving Arsenal.

We have no backbone at Arsenal. Can't defend.

We need a new manger who will mercilessly make the necessary changes at the club.

Still it makes little sense. This s a manager that revolutionised the Premier League when he arrived. We had such great teams in the past.

But the last decade he has done very little.

And it's true, trophies such as the FA Cup are meaningless. What good have they done us since we won 3 in the last 4 years....

Only thing that matters is league and Champions league.
 
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opethdisciple said:
Possibly some truth to this.
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The whole thing is based around the information that Lacazette is the best back up striker in the world.... except nothing he did this year showed that. Most expensive, biggest waste of money, worst buy in a long long time, sure, but best?

Arsenal needed an in form striker, Auba is the best striker by a mile who was looking to leave his club and move to a club for bigger wages before he got too old.

I mean straight up, arguably at City Aguero is the back up striker, though really it's him and Jesus both in rotation in the first slot and being rested as the back up, regardless, both are a mile beyond any performance I've seen from Lacazette.

Chelsea had Morata and Bats and now have Morata and Giroud with even potentially Bats as the third striker for summer. Liverpool have Sturridge, though out on loan and a major fitness problem but when fit he also has shown to be miles beyond Lacazette. The idea that Lacazette is the best back up striker in the world is honestly absurd.

Lacazette may have scored 9 for us, but he was poor in a lot of games and his goals came against Everton, two against West Brom, Bournemouth, leicester, Palace, Huddersfield, then one each against Utd and City in games we lost and he didn't do an awful lot in apart from the goals.

Of them, Bournemouth were the 4th of a 4 game losing streak to start the season, West Brom, Everton both fired their managers, Palace had Hodgson in charge a long while before we played them, they still aren't a great team and he scored in the 4-1 drubbing where they were just woeful, he got an assist in the first fixture away which was a much closer game. All we've seen is him put goals in against teams who were mostly very poor.

Either way I couldn't care less, Wenger's 'plan' for Arsenal is a joke so if someone else is getting a bigger say, all I can say is thank **** for that.
 
We didn't play to suit Lacazette, he strikes me as bit of poacher but we rarely get the ball to him in the box and rarely play balls behind the last man with our ridiculously slow build up. The constant taking off at 60 minutes obviously affected his confidence quite significantly too. He's definitely not the best back up striker in the world but I think he's a lot better than you're suggesting.
 
Yas786 said:
Why not give Ospina a proper run out in the first team?? I know he’s not great but what do you expect if you only play a handful of games?? Not only that cup games are the only times I see him play for us.
He can’t be any worse than Cech and maybe a few games will give him the confidence he needs??
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At this point I think the coaching staff, Wenger, and generally everything else is to blame. Ospina will never have improved and won't frankly be good enough to play for us now unless he went out on loan for a couple years playing first team.

As with so many of our players but especially keepers they improve when they leave but generally don't want to come back once they well, see how other teams are run. Chesny iirc was rather scathing about the way Arsenal prepare tactically for games and training methods in general. Cech is older but still makes great saves, it seems the mistakes are more about concentration or mentality, he still wins us lots of points with his efforts but only so much a keeper can do behind a disastrous defence. He's much worse than he was in his last year at Chelsea though and I think that is more about Arsenal than age.

I feel like if we loaned Ospina out he'd only get first team and not want to come back to work under Wenger and push for a move so it's really a lose lose situation for us.

We need a top keeper because even if Cech improved under a new goalkeeper coaching staff (and manager, hopefully) he's still pretty old and still needs replacing longer term anyway. Ospina needs to get a move to fix his career, Cech should get to decide for himself, stay and rotate as he gets older or if he wants a move basically let him move for next to nothing to wherever he wants. He could have done a lot better than Arsenal when he moved from Chelsea and he's certainly helped us.

As always the basic solution is get rid of Wenger and watch a new manager clean house of incompetent, comfortable staff throughout the playing/coaching staff who are no where near good enough.
 
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