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I reckon the bottom 6 as it stands isn't far off what it will be at the end of the season-

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The only difference I could see might be Reading growing in to the season and ending up a few places above relegation
 
Jesus knew Everton were doing well but not that well, they look a solid team this year, maybe Azza can comment on what losing Cahill has done to the team or anything since Jellyfish played more than him last year when he arrived?
 
Roy's Rio Message:

Roy Hodgson has apologised to Rio Ferdinand following the way in which news broke of his decision to omit the Manchester United defender from his latest squad.

The England Manager spoke to fans on a tube train in London ahead of Wednesday’s Champions League game at Arsenal, before elements of the conversation appeared in a national newspaper.

After confirming his 25-man squad for the World Cup qualifiers against San Marino and Poland, Hodgson revealed he plans to speak to Ferdinand to clear up the matter as soon as possible.

He said: "I'm very disappointed that the story has come out like that and I'll apologise to Rio because there's no way I would ever indicate that I wasn't going to use a player in that way.

“But the thing is that I didn’t choose him in the squad this time and it’s really just for the same reasons as before.

“We have other players, but I’m certainly not suggesting that it’s the end of the line for him.

“I would never dream of telling a player that it’s the end of the line or end of the road, or whatever I’m supposed to have said.

“That’s up to every player to decide for himself and hopefully that won’t be the case.

“When I speak to Rio I will make it clear to him that I haven’t selected him in this squad but who knows whether I will select him in the next one or not.

”I will leave it up to him to decide, so that if I ever do go to him, it will be up to Rio to decide whether he wants to be a part of it or not.

"But the bottom line is I am sticking to my guns.

"I am staying with the players I selected for the Euros and I am looking to the future."

Arsenal left-back Kieran Gibbs, Tottenham winger Aaron Lennon and Stoke centre-back Ryan Shawcross have been rewarded with call-ups following impressive early season displays for their clubs.

And Hodgson added: “Gibbs has started the season very well, and so have Aaron Lennon and Ryan Shawcross.

“They are players that we need to see at closer hand because I see them from the stands, but it will be nice to work with them and see how they can contribute to the team that we’re trying to build up.

“It has to be some sort of rejuvenation process with the England team. There are always going to be some sort of changes when a new coach comes in.
“I am very much aware that Brazil is two years down the road, if we are good enough to get there.

“In two years we need to have a pretty close look at some players to see what they can do and who in two years may be the real stars in the Premier League."

The squad will meet up on Monday at St. George’s Park prior to Friday’s match with San Marino at Wembley.
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Why should Roy have to apologise to Rio for Rio being rubbish?

Just because Terry has ended his int career why would Rio suddenly start again??

Rio needs taking down off his high horse and sold to the glue factory as he's a dreadful CB.
 
Rio is twice the speed of (we know what you are) terry, has 10 times more technical ability too. The FA and hodgson have joined the type of people who back JT and we know what they are.. I know they will be stuffed in brazil so i dont have to wish it, but i do. Disgraceful treatment of a ex captain.
 
England CB pairing should just be Jagielka and a young talent like Jones or Smalling. Best to get them in the side and settled ASAP ready for the next major competition instead of messing around with old goats like Rio and Terry who should be retiring in the next couple of years.
 
grimm said:
England CB pairing should just be Jagielka and a young talent like Jones or Smalling. Best to get them in the side and settled ASAP ready for the next major competition instead of messing around with old goats like Rio and Terry who should be retiring in the next couple of years.
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Agreed, but binning rio on the tube is loathsome.
 
Lemin said:
Agreed, but binning rio on the tube is loathsome.
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In what way, because no one can hear anything without running to a paper looking for either money, 5 minutes of fame or controversy? The only loathsome person is one who asks an innocent question, gets an innocent answer then trys to profit from it.

Can you imagine the world you could bump into Hodgson having a pint at the pub and ask him about his career? In this "run to the Sun" mentality world, if you ask him a question he'll tell you to **** off.

Likewise the ONLY reason Rio should have expected to be called up was, if he was in great club form now and wasn't previously, or if he was dropped purely because Terry was in the team, neither is true, he's an injury prone for 2 + years, not in good form CB who has been dodgy this season and has done nothing to suggest he should suddenly be called up regardless of the Terry situation.

Rio wasn't in the team BEFORE, he STILL isn't in the team, its not major news at all. If someone has asked if Barton was being called up, and Hodgson said no, the guy wouldn't have run to the press, its only this media inspired expectation that Ferdy was ONLY dropped for Terry/racial issues, and that with Terry no longer there Rio would definitely be called up that this even seems like a story. he wasn't in the team, on merit, he's still not in the team, on merit, simple as that. Which manager took King to a cup and how badly did that backfire? Answer, massively, you don't take very injury prone players to a short cup, you don't spent 2 years building a team around a long term CB partnership... that changes constantly because of injury. Even if he was in his best form I wouldn't pick him based off his injury record in the past few years, he's no where near his best form which makes it a very easy choice to not take him.

Terry might not have been in his very best form, but he also wasn't far from it for the past two years, he's also a rock who rarely gets injured and no matter what people want to believe, is clearly a strong leader on the pitch and more than held his own in the Euro's.
 
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pingwing said:
Why should Roy have to apologise to Rio for Rio being rubbish?

Just because Terry has ended his int career why would Rio suddenly start again??

Rio needs taking down off his high horse and sold to the glue factory as he's a dreadful CB.
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Lemin said:
Rio is twice the speed of (we know what you are) terry, has 10 times more technical ability too. The FA and hodgson have joined the type of people who back JT and we know what they are.. I know they will be stuffed in brazil so i dont have to wish it, but i do. Disgraceful treatment of a ex captain.
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As usual it's one extreme to the other in this place
 
I'll reiterate what I said 30mins after the news conference to announce the Euro2012 squad: I am sick and bloody tired of hearing about Rio flipping Ferdinand, a player who isn't in the squad (not suggesting it shouldn't be discussed here btw, that is directed at the media)
 
Tom84 said:
As usual it's one extreme to the other in this place
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Yep :D wouldn't be the same without it.

My opinion is mostly after seeing him against us last month, I was very embarrassed to see him and Vidic struggle so badly against Lambert (who's not the slickest of foxes out there).

Started to feel a little disillusioned by the reputation of the premier league and its top teams/players....
 
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