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Probably get shot down for being nuts but I honestly believe we would have won that World Cup if only we'd got through that game :( didn't create one decent chance against 10 men though in about 25 minutes so didn't deserve to win sadly.

This and if Gerrard had been fit
 
DM I don't care who he bought and how much he paid, it was the football he played and his complete lack of tactical nous and inability to coach players that for me means he deserves the criticism he gets.
Same thing happened at QPR, spent loads of money on players and couldnt do anything with them. Redknapp didn't save them from relegation but they certainly looked like they had more of an idea if what to do.

You give credit to Hughes for signing Zabaleta and Kompany etc and not one of them played under Hughes anything like they did under Mancini. Coincidence?
I think not.

I really do fear for Stoke, Hughes will go in there and try and change the team by burning in his best mates. Another relegation battle next year is on the horizon next year except this time they might go down.

Kompany was excellent straight away, Bellamy was excellent, Robinho was till he got injured, City played way more exciting football under Hughes and no there is no coincidence they played better under Mancini, its this thing called time. When you put together multiple new players they take time to gel, its as simple as that, that is why they got better season on season till Mancini's lack of any tactical ability cost him his job. In Europe, an utter inability to come up with a plan to stop the other side, similar in the league.

Hughes was fired after 12 games this year, with a very new and changed squad and no QPR were categorically worse under Redknapp and WERE improving before he left. Look at who they played and when, Redknapp took over right before the easiest 4-5 game spell of the entire season. I don't entirely blame Redknapp, he tried to change the team as well but that took them relatively speaking back to square one in terms of being a new team. He changed the defence, dropped the most inform midfielder. Hughes spent 12 games trying to phase out Derry/Hill and the others, and just as the replacements were getting form Redknapp decided some english grit was the answer, but then the team was getting used to a different line up again.


Its funny because I remember years back when Hughes was splashing the cash you were absolutely loving the way City played against utd despite a very unfair, Fergie time Owen goal it was the best you've played against Utd for donkeys years at the time, against a good Utd side at that rather than one that fell apart. You were also agreeing with me and defending hughes and your team for overspending on who they could get knowing most would be replaced. Back then you were defending Hughes and saying it would take time to improve and drastic changes in a team would take time for players to gel, and that you were getting stung for all transfers and fully expected to buy one set of players to get you into the top four, and another set to go the next step.....

Under Hughes they were drastically changed and drastically improved when Mancini took over with what 6 first teamers that were first team in the title winning side, maybe 5.

Back on this year, I suggest you look up some game stats, like against Spurs under Hughes then under Redknapp, QPR had half the possession and a bunch of chances and no luck under Hughes and away from home IIRC, under Redknapp they had something like 30% possession, at home, had like 3 shots and managed to fluke a goal(to get a win or a draw, I can't remember). That is one of MANY games that QPR were noticeably much better under Hughes than Redknapp, and again I'll point out they had multiple injuries in defence, upfront and their best midfield player from the previous season.

Oh well, its funny how you looked at the time back then and how you defended the club and the manager when people laughed at spending big on not great players, and how you describe the same situation now.
 
I am sorry but I disagree,

The football we played was exciting, didn't get us anywhere except a few league positions that lets face it was down to the sudden increase in talent anyway, doesn't mean Hughes was a good manager. He just sent the team out to attack. Anyone can do that.

Kompany was not excellent straight away at all, he was solid midfielder. Thats it.

As for Bellamy, yes he did play very well under Hughes and didn't under Mancini but that was because of his own ego, he has talked about it recently actually.

Robinho, again as you say was fantastic for a season then after that got injured and couldn't be bothered against most teams in the prem and he was sold. Mancini never got a proper crack at using him.

Lets talk about how good Zabaleta was under Hughes compared to now or some of the other signings? or are you not allowed to give Mancini any credit for turning average players under Hughes to Premier League winners under Mancini. If we use Zaba as an example he was hardly a youngster so you can't even use the excuse that it is because of time that he has become the player he has.

I was loving the way we played because of the players we had, I had never seen anything like it. I was naive at the time and believed that Hughes would be a good manager.
When he was sacked and Mancini came in everyone saw just how inept and useless Hughes is.

I really cannot understand why you defend him so much. It is no coincidence that he has never done anything as a manager. Truly bizarre.
I will leave it there because we are never going to agree, we never did when this same topic came up a few years ago.
 
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At least the entire thing has come to an end, it's been like having an ex send you dirty messages and flirt with you while going out with someone smarter, better looking and who has much more money.

I'm sure he's happy to be back in England where for all purpose he's given a much easier ride by the press.
 
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