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Didn't McGrath single Johnson out due to him being black?

No, Johnson is saying he singled him out ONLY because he's black and that is racist, the problem with Johnson is he's a moron.

He was singled out because he was the only black man wearing a shirt supporting a guy accused of racism, very very different thing.

On the idea that working with someone lets you know who they are and what they think, that is utter twaddle as well. How people behave when they know they have to see you ever day at work, or a friend of a friend, isn't necessarily how they would behave if they never had to talk to you again.

There are thousands of, peado's, and racists, and errm, germans sitting around in offices who hide that part of themselves from the people they see every day.

Anyway as many people have already said, there is a world of difference between being racist, and saying something racist to wind someone up, you do NOT have to be racist to say something racist. I don't have to hate, Jewish people to go up to any Jewish person and tell them I hate them, one is an action one is a belief. Suarez doesn't have to be racist, or show his racism outwardly on a daily basis to have said something racist to Evra, they are completely and utterly unrelated.

Short of it is, Johnson is and always has been a moron.
 
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He was singled out because he was the only black man wearing a shirt supporting a guy accused of racism, very very different thing.

So he was singled out because he was black then.
All I asked.

EDIT: before u blow a casket I'm not suggesting McGrath is racist, that nobody rugby player on the other hand though is.

At least Johnson can grasp the fact it was all one man's word vs another conviction :)
 
So he was singled out because he was black then.
All I asked.

EDIT: before u blow a casket I'm not suggesting McGrath is racist, that nobody rugby player on the other hand though is.

At least Johnson can grasp the fact it was all one man's word vs another conviction :)

It's a shame it wasn't though, because Suarez admitted using the word and made up some completely inplausible excuses which the inquiry found to be rubbish, and which Suarez later said wasn't true, so he admitted using the word, making up part of his story, and was overall found to be the less reliable witness.

It wasn't his word against Evra's, they BOTH said he used the word, Suarez's excuses for using it simply weren't believable.
 
It's a shame it wasn't though, because Suarez admitted using the word and made up some completely inplausible excuses which the inquiry found to be rubbish, and which Suarez later said wasn't true, so he admitted using the word, making up part of his story, and was overall found to be the less reliable witness.

It wasn't his word against Evra's, they BOTH said he used the word, Suarez's excuses for using it simply weren't believable.

Really? The linguistic experts seemed to think it was perfectly plausible he could be using it in a non offence manner.
 
Really? The linguistic experts seemed to think it was perfectly plausible he could be using it in a non offence manner.
To drag this back one notch, a 'non offence manner' [sic] still doesn't equate to 'Evra's word against Suarez's' which is what Johnson and his favourite OcUK apologist said.
 
Really? The linguistic experts seemed to think it was perfectly plausible he could be using it in a non offence manner.

Yeah, that wasn't what I was referring to so well done. Also the linguistic experts said they DIDN'T KNOW which was it was intended but that IF he was using it in his home culture style way it wouldn't have been offensive. They also said if he wasn't it would be offensive, they didn't give a particular opinion on that particular point either way.

I'll admit I forget which experts decided it but it was his "I said it, and then later on I pinched him in a playful way because i'm hilarious and was trying to defuse the situation kind of way", and the bodylanguage experts, or, you know anyone with two eyes decided from seeing the footage that he was angry and there wasn't a chance in hell the pinching of Evra's skin(in a situation in which he's being accused of talking about Evra's skin colour) was playful, but he was intending to wind up Evra further.

IIRC Suarez was asked about this, admitted he did not do this playfully, didn't provide an answer why he mid conversation after calling him black he felt the need to pinch him and THAT is what led to him being deemed a far less credible witness.

Evra couldn't be proven right or wrong on anything he said I don't think, he was proven right on being called ****** at least once, and Suarez changed his mind on at least one(but I think a couple other points) through the investigation and he admitted calling him ****** at least once.

Hmm, its actually been a while since I read it, I think the one time he admitted to calling him ****** was after the playful skin pinching incident.

So he story was, I playfully pinched him, and then I playfully called him my black little friend. When you make it I purposefully was trying to wind him up pinching his skin... making a reference to his skin colour, and then I lol, playfully called him black.. because I'm such a jovial kind hearted soul. The I called him black in a "nice" way started to look utterly unbelievable and it was his next step in trying to wind him up.

So the investigation basically believed that he pinched him to wind him up then he called him black TO WIND HIM UP, which makes calling him black to wind him up racist, not friendly. IT's a tad confusing largely because of the timing of when Suarez admitted using the word, while Evra says he used it several times which honestly makes more sense. Evra's story, part of it is true, Suarez's attitude on camera looks anything but the story he gave, he was proven wrong, he changed his story and he admitted using the word, Suarez was completely unbelievable, Evra wasn't, simple as that.
 
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To drag this back one notch, a 'non offence manner' [sic] still doesn't equate to 'Evra's word against Suarez's' which is what Johnson and his favourite OcUK apologist said.

Evra said it was meant to be offence, Suarez said not, linguistic experts could see it either way so this is Evra's word against Suarez's, no?

Also DM are you talking about the believable Evra who constantly changed his mind about how many times Suarez called him a ******/negrito/negro/blacky or whichever one he decided. Or the fact he couldn't tell people at the time what Suarez really said as he is too horrified by the word ******?
And the Evra who would have a better time explaining his version of events as he was explaining them for the first time whilst watching the footage, Suarez was not, an incident that had happened 3 months prior which Suarez probably didn't care about at the time and wouldn't really think '****, i gotta remember this stuff, vitally important'.
 
Evra said it was meant to be offence, Suarez said not, linguistic experts could see it either way so this is Evra's word against Suarez's, no?
Except that wasn't what Johnson (or even Evra for that matter) said:

There is no way he said that.
I'm honestly starting to suspect that if Daglish 'hit out' in a press conference at scientists claiming the world was round, Purdy would come running in here with photoshopped atlases within an hour...
 
Aww, poor lil' Luis Suarez, the victim. It's outrageous how he has been treated here. Evra is a piece of work, bet he stayed up all week hatching this complex and devious plan, never mind one night.

Funny when Johnson (who appears to be the very thickest of the thick) said 'he would never say that' about something that Suarez admitted saying.
 
Funny when Johnson (who appears to be the very thickest of the thick) said 'he would never say that' about something that Suarez admitted saying.

Slighty ironic of you to call Johnson thick when you (as well as many others) still can't understand that what Suarez admitted to saying was different (and considered not offensive by the experts) to what he was accused of saying.
 
Except that wasn't what Johnson (or even Evra for that matter) said:


I'm honestly starting to suspect that if Daglish 'hit out' in a press conference at scientists claiming the world was round, Purdy would come running in here with photoshopped atlases within an hour...

Really? Forgot I agree with everything Kenny and the club does :rolleyes::rolleyes:

EDIT: It could easily be interrupted Johnson meant there is no way he said that (in an offensive manner), no?
 
It could easily be interrupted Johnson meant there is no way he said that (in an offensive manner), no?

Or (as above) it could easily mean that he didn't say what he was accused of saying, as what he admitted to saying was completely different to what he was accused of saying.

The amount of people that continue to comment on this subject despite having no idea about it is incredible.
 
Slighty ironic of you to call Johnson thick when you (as well as many others) still can't understand that what Suarez admitted to saying was different (and considered not offensive by the experts) to what he was accused of saying.

*no personal attacks*

You're usually quite a good poster here, why put that in doubt it to defend that insufferable mess? He's not even that good, it's not worth it.
 
When you talk about Suarez/Evra and Liverpool I can't help but think you're Purdy's slightly more literate alt

You're usually quite a good poster here, why put that in doubt it to defend that insufferable mess?

Sorry, who am I defending? I've certainly not defended Suarez in what I just said, I was commenting on your post.

People keep banging on about "Suarez admitted to saying it", yet can't understand that what he admitted to saying was found to be non-offensive and completely different to what he was accused of saying. As I said, it's ironic of you to call Johnson thick when you have no idea what you're talking about.

He was found guilty because they didn't believe his version of events (I've said 101 times that I don't either), not because of what he admitted to saying. Unfortunately whenever I explain that I get accused of defending Suarez, despite saying countless times I thought he was guilty :o
 
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