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JamesU2005 said:
Was a great Wrestlemania.

BUT Triple Threat was boring and the so called Main Event with HHH and Orton was even worse.

However, the Money in the Bank and HBK/Taker match more than made up for it.

Quick side note, anyone think Vince will now realise everyone wants Christian to have a bigger push? The crowd were urging Christian to win and everyone booed when CM Punk won it?
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I doubt it, everybody wants Christian to do well and the pops he recieved when he was about to win here the best in the MITB match. Vince just doesn't seem to care/know what the fans want anymore though. Apparently he was even against having Christian in MITB let alone win it.

Personally it would be great to see him move to Raw or Smackdown and somehow get involved in the upper card stuff.
 
Tute said:
In fairness, the 'Taker Edge match last year wasn't bad at all. It wasn't the best match of the event, but it certainly wasn't a let down.

They both gave all for that match really.
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I remember Mania 20... Possibly the best mania ending i had ever seen..

Both Benoit And Guerrero celebrating after winning heavyweight and wwe championships.
 
Viper² said:
Flights will be expensive. Probably about £800 + transfers + hotel + tickets + spending.

You're looking at over £2k probably.
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It's not at all

The few sites I've looked at said travel packages offered by the WWE for WM25 for UK buyers were in the region of 1k to 2k depending on the seating/extras etc
 
Haydz said:
I remember Mania 20... Possibly the best mania ending i had ever seen..

Both Benoit And Guerrero celebrating after winning heavyweight and wwe championships.
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Shame the WM20 ending has effectively been erased from the WWE's bank of 'Mania moments' due to subsequent events.

Mania 25 on the whole was a bit mediocre the amazing Taker/HBK match towered over the whole card and in hindsight really should have been the main event match as it killed the atmosphere stone dead for the 2 title matches afterwards. Not that the HHH/Orton match helped much as it was dishwater dull.

Like most I was surprised by Steamboats performance, for a bloke who hasn't had a match in 15 years he was in awesome shape and could have shown a lot of the current roster a thing or 2 about working and technique!

Still trying to work out what the actual point of the divas match was :confused: why have a load of the old divas return only to pretty much never mention them and have a bloke in drag win the whole thing!??
 
Just watching WM at last now :) HBK/Taker match was amazing, that swimming dive over the outside looked like Taker pretty much spiked himself :eek: Such a shame that HBK/Christian didn't win thier respective matches, all the fans there wanted Christian to win, even booing as Punk was reaching up for the case!

Psycho, I know what you mean about thw HBK/Taker match making the rest impossible to stand up to, the Cena/Edge/Big Show match is on now and just cannot compete, doesn't help with Vickie the moose being wheeled around and spending half the match as the main camera focus.

Kudos for WWE to giving her a job and bringing her in to help her family after Eddie's untimely death, but she has become more stale than you can possibly imagine and on top of that its making Chavo, who is very talented, look an absolute damn joke.

Bring Christian to Raw in the draft, end up with him and Punk in a match for the case and have the WWE capitalise on Christian's immense popularity, the guy was a real hit in TNA, and he could go to the sky and beyond, he's SO versatile and an amazing asset, I just hope Vince realises that before its too late!

As for how Steamboat wrestled after being retired for so long and given his age, was nothing short of amazing, Piper and Snuka obviously struggle to go as much as they used to, given Piper's battle with stomach cancer etc.. he can still go like a madman, but all in all, great work form the legends, but Steamboat, in a league of his own for that legends team, Flair Vs Steamboat, even now, would be absolutely awesome :)
 
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Viper² said:
Quick summary?
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Really just details how everything is entirely choreographed, that the wrestlers themselves get on pretty well outside the live action and that many of the suprestars are not good at what they do and have to be "carried" by the real experts. Things like how most of the speciality moves don't hurt at all.

I mean, it's not like any of this is news but I was surprised at how far the fakery has gone.
 
MikeTimbers said:
Really just details how everything is entirely choreographed, that the wrestlers themselves get on pretty well outside the live action and that many of the suprestars are not good at what they do and have to be "carried" by the real experts. Things like how most of the speciality moves don't hurt at all.

I mean, it's not like any of this is news but I was surprised at how far the fakery has gone.
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lol. Its wrestling. If you've ever saw a live event, you'll see just how fake the moves look. WWE are smart with their camera work when watching it on tv, they make everything look worse than it really is. When watching it live, you can really see how fake it is.

Why would they create "special" moves to just hurt the other guy, the whole point of being a good wrestler is not hurting the other guy but making it look like you did.

Bret is a cry baby. Good wrestler but he has serious ego problems.
 
Ironic that the Hardy's match on SD was a lot better than the WM one.

Should have had a stretcher match at the PPV tbh.
 
Tom84 said:
Disagree, their Mania match was top
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Nah, Mania one was just them flapping around, then the crash and burn from the ladder, and that was it really.

You even said yourself that there were a fair few things wrong with it.
 
Both matches were pretty good, but the Twist of Fate on/in the chair was very innovative, yes the WM match was a lot of high sports/quic brutality, but it was done well as a way to escalate what they had, rather than play out into a large ending of the fued, ala the Taker/HBK match at WM (God I hope that goes on, though)
 
Tute said:
You even said yourself that there were a fair few things wrong with it.
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I did? :confused:

That aside anyone going to predict any draft moves ahead of tonight's Raw?

I reckon the big moves will be Triple H back to Raw with Cena going to Smackdown. Will be interesting to see if they move Edge to Raw what with Vicky Guerrero there now full time....
 
Tom84 said:
I did? :confused:
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Tom84 said:
Match of the night bar none was obviously Taker v HBK, in fact the WWE will struggle to top that match all year it was that good.

The major highlight of the night for me was CM Punk winning Money in the Bank for the second year running mainly because it all but guarantees another title run within the next year.

Only other worthwhile match was that between the Hardy's some sweet spots during it especially the twist of fate on the chair! Jeff should have hit the Swanton when Matt was on the table on the outside though rather than that flimsy looking splash :(
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It seemed to me that you like the Hardy's match but didn't find it anything special. You also pointed out the splash being a wrong move. :)

As for the draft, i'll be up to watch it. I think Edge has to move - his storylines still hinge on him and Vickie doing what they want.

I think Cena to Smackdown, although i'd love to see HHH go back to RAW. Maybe he will, although that would mean another top-carder switching, maybe Batista back to SD?
 
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