Poll: The Budget
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Because the left-wing stubbornly refuse to see the big picture so much so it almost makes me think that they are collectively intellectively inferior. People who earn 150K and above tend to be extremely clever and have sussed out life for themselves.
Either by being smart enough to get to the jobs that pay these amounts or business owners who know how to run business, but the likes of realBabelfish and Xmoon will have you believe the money just fell onto their laps.
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And i bet most of them who are top earners went to university because they earned a place because of the intelligence, not because everyone should go
So despite the fact that the OBR calculates the measures in the budget will raise five times as much revenue as the 50% tax rate the budget is a bad thing?
yes i believe so, Traders who have masters in maths and work 12hr days to get the kind of salaries. I've got a Bsci in Physics and even their maths challenge me sometimes, it's quicker for them to jot down a formula and work it out on paper then use the computer, they're that fast! Their intelligence is admirable and quite formidable
That'll be the guy! It was a great documentary!
Soldato
WOW your a nice fella
Agreed, I would be banned if I typed what I really thought about him.
Blimey,the traders you are so proud of that nearly bankrupted themselves,way to go,and lots of people work 12 hour days/nights for a pittance
Blimey,the traders you are so proud of that nearly bankrupted themselves,way to go,and lots of people work 12 hour days/nights for a pittance
Soviet Russia is that way ->
Current is 26%, from 1 April it will be 24%. Profits are time apportioned.
Edit: Actually, if you're small (which is probable) then it's 20% either way.
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couldn't agree more, it's frustrating listening to all the bonus/banker bashing etc. Some of the bonuses were undoubtedly silly but to be honest it was the senior managers, the CEOs who had their eye off the ball.
What the city did over the last few years is recruit a bunch of outlandishly intelligent people and tell them to go and make money. You can't blame them for succeeding and I don't think it's unreaonable for them to have received gigantic bonuses.
If the company failed to see the flaws or the bigger picture you can't blame the individuals who did the actual graft and constant bashing of these guys will just see them move overseas.
The proportion of the money that's been spent on schools/hospitals/bankrolling the frankly mental size of our public sector that came from the tax take on the city is eye watering.
If you then take into account that its highly unlikely these people will ever make any use of public services such as police, the NHS, welfare payments etc they're probably getting a bum deal in truth.
But thats part of a reasoned debate, I'm all for the rich paying their way but you can't characterise one side as good and one as evil. By the same score the unemployed single mother who raised me wasn't benefit scrounging dole scum either. It's greys not black and whites.
It bugs me a little that people choose to forget what a percentage is, if the first guy pays 10% of his £20k salary in tax and the next man pays 15% of his £200k salary as an example of something similar to now, not only has the higher paid guy paid significantly more in outright cash, he's also already paid a larger overall percentage.
There is a very real and meaningful argument for a flat tax system, it's the only way it can be fair IMO.
But then we'd need to investigate what an actual living, comfortable income was, taking into account all the things people need and want and then set a flat tax rate accordingly so the lower end wasn't squeezed so it had to decide between heating and food. But thats impossible so what we get is like today, a "neutral" budget which you could argue we'd have probably been better off with not bothering with at all!
the big 3 political parties are the same, but in different colours, thats whats wrong there is no alternative. What grinds me is I get labelled as a labour person, when I've never voted for them in my life, in fact I voted lib dem and for that I'm so sad that they have basically torn up their manifesto to get into bed with the devil tories.
next election unless a true alternative stands, I'm spoiling it by writing something rude on the ballot
The people with the money should look after the most vulnerable in society, people here have some disgustingly greedy views, and are no doubt children of thatcher
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Ignoring the dubious independence and track record of the OBR, the 50% income tax raised approx £1bn in tax revenue last year, and would have raised more as income that was brought forward last year to avoid the 50% tax rate cannot avoid the 50% tax rate this year. The evidence presented for cutting the 50% tax rate is extremely flaky at best. Someone has to pay for this tax cut for the rich though, and it looks like it's going to be pensioners and middle income earners. So yes I think this budget is a truly awful thing from a truly despicable chancellor.
LOL, I don't think you have a clue what was in their manifesto, as a lot of it has been implemented. Far more than their voter share.
Soldato
But the important question is what didn't it raise.
So for the people that voted either somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied, what are you dissatisifed about?
Are you peronally worse off? Do you think the cuts don't go far enough? Do you think the cuts are in the wrong area?
Are you peronally worse off? Do you think the cuts don't go far enough? Do you think the cuts are in the wrong area?
Soldato
Do you really believe that? Are you missing fundamental parts of your brain, or something?
How you can even operate a computer I'll never know.
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Stop voting, violent revolution against the system is the only answer, combat liberalism.