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50/50 on my roof. It has been off the road since 2008 to be fair though. Still needs a lot more work!

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Hi there,

To the machine polishing guys;

I've got some 3M fast cut but to be honest it's taken off the very top layer of oxidisation and a very small number of imperfections on my Honda Accord but 95% of the swirls are still there and it has introduced some holograming.

So a few questions

A) Is it worth working the 3m fast cut harder to take out the swirl marks
B) Is there anything I can buy in halfords today that is more aggressive
C) Is there anything I can buy in halfords today that will remove the hologramming?

Kind Regards

Alec
 
Just bought myself a few goodies as some of my old cloths and mitts were looking grubby.

Gtechniq G5 & G4 MaxRepellency Glass Kit
Gtechniq G6 Perfect Glass

Poorboys Black Hole. Show Glaze
Poorboys Nattys Paste Wax Blue
CarPro Wash Mitt
Uber Yellow Premium Drying Towel

Dodo Juice Basics of Bling Foam Wax Applicator
Dodo Juice Fantastic Fur Buffing Cloth
Dodo Juice Supernatural Window Waffle Cloth
Dodo Juice Basics of Bling Polish Applicator
3M Masking Tape

Didn't realise I bought so many Dodo Juice items!
 
Hi there,

To the machine polishing guys;

I've got some 3M fast cut but to be honest it's taken off the very top layer of oxidisation and a very small number of imperfections on my Honda Accord but 95% of the swirls are still there and it has introduced some holograming.

So a few questions

A) Is it worth working the 3m fast cut harder to take out the swirl marks
B) Is there anything I can buy in halfords today that is more aggressive
C) Is there anything I can buy in halfords today that will remove the hologramming?

Kind Regards

Alec

A - you could try this it depends on how deep they are, but if it's only swirls fast cut should shift it.
B - probably not - if the above isn't working then you could use 1500 or 2000 grit wet & dry and then fast cut it
C - not sure what they stock, I'd go to the place you got the fast cut from and get the light blue top machine polish and matching heads
 
Fast cut plus is pretty darn capable stuff, should be a breeze to get rid of swirls even on hard paint. You must be hardly working it at all if it's not doing anything, that or maybe you aren't using the right type of pad.

To give an idea, how much time are you spending on a 1ft square, and how much pressure are you using?
 
I retract my comment about Wonder Wheels not being able to clean my alloys, using the spray on with tiny brush to agitate has brought them up amazingly, I honestly never thought I'd get them clean but they are now perfect (apart from the kerbing, of course), and it took so little effort
 
Thank you Dead Dog.

To give an idea, how much time are you spending on a 1ft square, and how much pressure are you using?


Time wise, I really not sure. Clearly not long enough! I suppose a couple of minutes.

Pressure wise I really am not putting a lot in. How much should I be putting in? I am mearly keeping the pad in contact with the paint - not pushing enough to compress it or anything. Is that wrong?

I will have another go at some point this week and do more passes with more pressure and see how I get on! Just my nervousness as to not damage the paint I guess. And maybe a bit of lazyness.

Also - with the fast cut am I, or rather should I, encounter much hologramming left behind? For such a low level of polish I do seem to have got quite a bit. Is there anything I can do differently with the fast cut to reduce that or do I just merely move on to a finer polish? If so any cheap and effective products recommended?

Kind Regards

Alec
 
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I am fighting a losing battle trying to clean my car. Get it to the way I want it, only for it to be covered in dust by the next day.

I'm having a similar issue except with bird ****. By the day after washing my car, it has a big dump on the bonnet or windows regardless of where I park or leave the car, it's driving me up the wall!
 
Maybe you have posted it somewhere else but it depends what machine you have. If it is a DA (CYC or Kestral Das 6, Meguiars G220) then you want to be putting enough pressure on the machine that the pads rotation is about 1 or 2 rpm. A good way to work this is out is draw a line on the backing plate and you will be able to count from that. Rotaries require less pressure though, when heavy compounding you will need to add some pressure but not a lot. I have no experience with the forced DA's so can't answer about them.

Heavy compounding could be completed in a few minutes, generally you want to move the machine at around 1" per second, overlapping each pass by 50% and alternating direction (first up/down, second left/right).

If you think you are doing it wrong, there are some good videos on how to do it, especially Junkmans series. He talks a lot but does give a lot of information on polishing using a DA.

Regarding the holograms though, all they are very tiny scratches the polish has left in the paint. They are easily removed though through using a finishing pad and finishing polish. Usually finishing polishes have a longer set time than a compounding one though so the second polishing stage may take longer.
 
Thanks for all the tips guys. For your info Greboth I was using a rotary.

I've been watching some of Junkmans stuff, it would appear pressure is not the problem - nor time really. But I think the poor pads and I think I've been using too much polish & clogging the pads up. Apparently at that point they stop cutting.

Going to order some more pads and bits tonight and have a crack on Wednesday evening and see how I get on!

Thanks again guys.

Kind Regards

Alec
 
Yeah I was wondering if you were using too much.
Pressure wise, as said you don't want much, if it's an older heavier mop then not much more than the weight of it - you don't certainly don't need to be really leaning on it ;)
If it's variable speed - I personally prefer it quite slow.
Also if you're using an older type sponge head, as opposed to the colour coded 3M heads or a farecla compound head, they aren't as good, but then the machine polish will sort that (the newer heads leave a better finish straight from compound)
 
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