In the 2018 a/c's, £495k income which £447k comes from rents, interest, investments and donations,
The Death of Free Speech? Roy Chubby Brown Gig Cancelled
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In the 2018 a/c's, £495k income which £447k comes from rents, interest, investments and donations,
Chances are if they're operating venues that do comedy performances much of the funding will come through the income from the venues.
It's a fairly common way to fund such Charites, effectively they run a business but put the profit into the ongoing charity work.
There is also a very good chance that as it's a trust they may have started out with a large amount of money or land/property left to them by people, in which case again running things like events is a good way to pay to maintain buildings and fufill the objectives of the trust (IE a charitable trust that is set up to maintain buildings or promote the arts can do both whilst funding itself by hiring out venues to put on shoes).
I do love MMJ's daily "they're cancelling everything" and "woke" threads. It reminds me of the hysteria about the reds under the bed from the 50's in America.
I'm going to guess that if the show had only sold a 7th of it's tickets cancelling it may well be in the interests of the people who were going to put on the show.
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It's literally in the BBC article.
Now it is due to a pandemic...the accounts arent clear as ive literally just posted. They were given a grant to allow them to not rely on the council as much.
The council gave them money to not need money from the council? Just roll that around in your head a bit.
Additionally, why not give them a loan?
They were given a grant from the government(culture recovery fund) due to the pandemic so they weren't so reliant upon the local council.
If you have the actual accounts to show they are funded mainly by the council then go for it.
You’re conversing with someone who is never wrong so you might as well talk to a wall.
Again, original article clearly states they're majority council funded.
"Sheffield City Trust, which is mainly funded by the council, cancelled the show"...
Not sheffield City trust, which once received a covid grant...
Look at their accounting, they've received multiple millions in government funding all except one year since 2016. Last year was one of the smallest grants.
I mean you got the wrong charity as a start.
Glad you've accepted you're never right. Trollololol.
lul
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Came to post the exact same sentiments. So, like the lazy bugger I am, I'll just quote yours instead.
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I agree that church services should be banned. Any of religious parts anyway.
Didn't that happen a while back? To prove some kind of point all the atheists got together, as they all do every Sunday morning, and ran an ad campaign saying 'There probably isn't a god, but carry on being awesome' or something. And guess who complained? Religious groups
It was just one of those perfect moments... makes you start believing in a god!! damn thats how they get you.
I've heard of this argument before. But it misses out on an important part of how Hitler came to power.
It happened because the mainstream parties decided to ignore the German people, and their handling of the end of WW1 and the conditions they accepted in the terms of their surrender. None of the main parties would call out the situation so it opened the way for extreme parties on both the right and left to come through. Germany wasn't a tolerant country before Hitler appeared. There was already an anti-foreign attitude in society that was exploited by Hitler and the Nazi's. The fact the Nazis were spouting this type of language and then Hitler was offered the Chancellor position, without him actually winning the election, should tell us a lot about the corruption and bad taste views of the political elite. Hitler didnt stand out in that society before he revealed himself as a meglomaniac.
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What are you talking about? We've never had less censorship than we do now. I grew up in the 70/80s and there was no end of censorship. Its like people have a selective memory because it suits their agenda
What are you talking about? We've never had less censorship than we do now. I grew up in the 70/80s and there was no end of censorship. Its like people have a selective memory because it suits their agenda
I also grew up in the 70s/80s and I say your memory is indeed selective to suit your agenda. There was much less censorship on political grounds back then than there is now. There was a lot more censorship on sexual grounds, but there was strong objection to that. The situation nowadays is the reverse - rather than moving towards more freedom and tolerance we're moving away from both. It's the censorious authoritarians who are winning now and they're winning at an increasing rate as they have now pretty destroyed the very ideas of equality, diversity, tolerance, freedom and liberalism. Minitru would be proud of them. Very "progressive".
My main objection isn't to the controller of the venue cancelling the show. It's to the people who used their position of superior power to attack him and blame him for their attack on him. I wonder if he has a case for libel on the basis of false accusation.
Ah yes, Roy Chubby brown and the like being cancelled and by people who dislike racism and point it out to venues, is clearly on par with Section 28 enforced by the government in power for 15 years nationally. The true authoritarians are the Twitter users who wield petitions.
Ah I see, Germans had no choice, it was a case of be ignored, or kill 6 million Jews. Got it. Therefore we should tolerate those kinds of views as ok. Makes sense, there was literally no other choice for them.
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This really is an obsession with you isn't it. And no it wasn't just on sexual content. The idea we have political censorship here is ridiculous. Unless you mean people objecting to extreme sexist, racist views when back then they'd either agree with them or just keep their mouths shut like we were expected to so as not to cause a scene. I would argue we've never been more tolerant, yeah there has been a recent rise in racism and xenophobia but that suited a political movement and so was encouraged by politicians. As for freedom, well we've been losing those for decades and no one has really batted an eyelid. We just elect more of the same and they keep striping them away. Don't blame your lack of freedoms on "woke". Look to Westminster for that.