The disappearance of Nicola Bulley

413x said:
It was daylight. There were people walking. It would be exceptionally Risky for someone to let's say murder her. Risky that someone else came along, she screams etc. Leaving the phone on, and in the bench, also would be weird.

Really, foul play seems much much more unlikely than an accident
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Unlikely but not impossible. I think it was Ted Bundy who used to feign a limp in broad daylight to appear non-threatening, and kidnap his victims.
 
Tombstone said:
If what has been said by family/friends is true, they dont take a ball/toy when walking the dog, so that would seem to rule that out. They also said that they always take the harness off the dog when they get to the field gates, so the harness being off would be entirely normal
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Interesting. So harness off by a steep river bank, dog gets too close or even jumps down because there's food/smell there, maybe she's gone to try help/drag dog back up and had a wobble? My dogs have always skirted close to river banks (if not in the river already) as well as ridges with drops to the side. She maybe over-reacted to the dog going over, especially if she was on a work call and felt like she needed to resolve it quickly worrying the dog might get swept away.


I live near Barrowford where a woman was chased along the canal last week. It's not unusual around here too sadly, but I don't know of any cases where anything other than a freak encounter has happened and someone caught (last time it was a crazy homeless guy who was sectioned I believe). Also annoying as I often run along the canal here and you get some jumpy women thinking they're about to be murdered by me. Foul play should not be out of the question, they are very focussed on her exiting via a path and not another way. Also she had posted her walk a few times publically on social media hadn't she? That maybe attracted the wrong sort of attention, somneone who recognised the area. It's easy to get into many theories, I just hope it's not some horrific story for the sake of her family.
 
PanMaster said:
Why haven't they searched inside the "abandoned" house and tested every square inch for blood traces?
The police incompetence is astonishing.
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Thing to remember about the abandoned house is that the house is on the other side of the river so not somewhere thats easy to get to without a boat or a long walk round to a crossing point.
 
Dup said:
Interesting. So harness off by a steep river bank, dog gets too close or even jumps down because there's food/smell there, maybe she's gone to try help/drag dog back up and had a wobble? My dogs have always skirted close to river banks (if not in the river already) as well as ridges with drops to the side. She maybe over-reacted to the dog going over, especially if she was on a work call and felt like she needed to resolve it quickly worrying the dog might get swept away.


I live near Barrowford where a woman was chased along the canal last week. It's not unusual around here too sadly, but I don't know of any cases where anything other than a freak encounter has happened and someone caught (last time it was a crazy homeless guy who was sectioned I believe). Also annoying as I often run along the canal here and you get some jumpy women thinking they're about to be murdered by me. Foul play should not be out of the question, they are very focussed on her exiting via a path and not another way. Also she had posted her walk a few times publically on social media hadn't she? That maybe attracted the wrong sort of attention, somneone who recognised the area. It's easy to get into many theories, I just hope it's not some horrific story for the sake of her family.
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Yeah but that passes Occom's razor and therefore can't be possible in GD.
 
If she was on a conference call and didn't find her phone then have they not use Apple/Google find my phone to track its last known locations? This feature is on by default.
 
CaptainCaracaras said:
They already have apparently, and its not abandoned.
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Exactly. A guy suddenly showed when volunteers were searching the grounds and he demanded they have a warrant to look inside.
The river is shallow. He could have easily carried her across or placed the items + dog the other side.
Occams Razor was mentioned: Big house that no-one has searched right next to where the phone was found...
 
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PanMaster said:
Exactly. A guy suddenly showed when volunteers were searching the grounds and he demanded they have a warrant to look inside.
The river is shallow. He could have easily carried her across or placed the items + dog the other side.
Occams Razor was mentioned: Big house that no-one has searched right next to where the phone was found...
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That river does not look shallow to me
 
This makes more sense now having read a comment elsewhere:

My theory is that she has been sat on the bench on a call and then seen either her dog or another animal maybe fall or get into trouble in the water and she had put the phone down (with the intention of getting into the water) and has been carried with the current. It was an hour later that she was discovered missing so that's quite a long time to be carried along in a waterway. To be very clear I'm not drawing a comparison between a dog and a person, but a year ago my friend's dog disappeared in this same river, further down stream to this, she turned round in a field and he was gone, she didn't even know if he was in the river at the time as there was no trace of him in the water, he was just nowhere to be seen. We searched that day and every day for a number of weeks with kayaks, drones etc - eventually his body was found about a mile away from where he would have fallen in. we were given advice at the time that beings submerged in a waterway such as this will take a couple of weeks sometimes to resurface. I think there is very little chance that this is anything other than a horrible accident and unfortunately this poor lady will be discovered upstream in the following weeks, if she is at all.
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Others that have walked that river have said it is quite "deceptive", and the tidal currents can easily swoop whatever into the sea.
 
That river does look pretty dodgy, as someone who owns a boat and does a lot of fishing on big gravel pits and sometimes rivers, the edge of a bank can be very deceptive - it might look shallow, but it might be right down to 10-15ft if it's on a shelf.

If you fall into that in January, it's going to absolutely suck. If you're wearing heavy thick clothing, you're going to end up weighing 2x as much in a matter of 5-10 seconds, it's REALLY hard to swim or stay afloat like that, especially if you're not trained, or a good swimmer.
 
mrk said:
This makes more sense now having read a comment elsewhere:



Others that have walked that river have said it is quite "deceptive", and the tidal currents can easily swoop whatever into the sea.
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You can see its quite a fast river. There isn't much debris and the banks are quite sharp.

Slower rivers are often messy
 
Screeeech said:
That river does look pretty dodgy, as someone who owns a boat and does a lot of fishing on big gravel pits and sometimes rivers, the edge of a bank can be very deceptive - it might look shallow, but it might be right down to 10-15ft if it's on a shelf.

If you fall into that in January, it's going to absolutely suck. If you're wearing heavy thick clothing, you're going to end up weighing 2x as much in a matter of 5-10 seconds, it's REALLY hard to swim or stay afloat like that, especially if you're not trained, or a good swimmer.
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There are 2 measuring stations either side of where she supposidly vanished, on the date of her disappearance the measurement from west of St Michaels was 0.45m, and the measurement from north east of St Michaels it was 7.04m, river flows east to west I think towards the sea on blackpool coast.
 
Dyson said:
My gut is that was suicide, but sadly we'll never know.
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Someone mentioned this too:

Something is not right here. She posted almost daily on her Facebook account up until the the 7th December then stopped abruptly and never posted again. Christmas and new year no posts at all seems strange for a young mum who had been a consistent daily poster previously. The dog let loose and her phone placed purposely on the bench. The police confirming they don’t believe anyone else is involved. I hope for all involved this is not a tragic case of suicide.
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Suicide makes more sense than murder.

What a way to do it if it is that. You'd hope the husband had some idea she was struggling. But it doesn't always work out like that.

I'm guessing as it's medical and private we wouldn't know about any medication but police would?
 
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