The disappearance of Nicola Bulley

Werewolf said:
I always remember something I heard an experienced lifeguard who'd done years on some extremely busy beaches say and I'm paraphrasing "it's not the noisy ones you pay attention to, it's the ones who suddenly go quiet".
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that was probably more in relation to after rescue care, watching out for secondary drowning etc. when you're watching the beaches noisy and quiet are irrelevant if someone is out in the water - you'll likely not hear them anyway.
 
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Werewolf said:
I always remember something I heard an experienced lifeguard who'd done years on some extremely busy beaches say and I'm paraphrasing "it's not the noisy ones you pay attention to, it's the ones who suddenly go quiet".
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Absolutely. People are concentrating on staying alive, they aren't concentrating on screaming. This is rule one to spot people who are drowning.

Also, water is very cold at this time of year. People go in to immediate shock when they fall in. It can literally kill. The average person has only a few minutes to get out. Even if they do get out, they are in grave peril.
 
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The river doesn't even look deep, at the deep sections - most people could stand with their head above the water line
 
If they don't find a body there really will be questions asked.

At that point the floor can open the conspiracy theorists.
 
SDK^ said:
The river doesn't even look deep, at the deep sections - most people could stand with their head above the water line
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You can drown in an inch of water, you can be swept off your feet in about a foot of water, and visibility can be bad enough that you're effectively blind by the time your head is under the water.
Standing up in even a modestly flowing river is going to be something.

It's one of the reasons water is so dangerous, people don't understand exactly how dangerous it can be, and one of the reasons the police etc are (from memory) specifically taught not to go into the water after a report of someone falling in, but to try and spot the person or wait until specialist units can arrive as if they can't see the person they're potentially putting themselves at huge risk for nothing, Or think of all the instances of someone (often two or more:( ) drowning because they've jumped in to help someone or an animal, almost every year there are at least a handful of those cases (and with the dog ones, often the dog survives anyway).

If you're a driver think about things like puddles in the road, how often have you gone into a puddle and suddenly realised it's not just a shallow one, but a honking great pot hole, or all those videos of people wrecking their cars by driving into what they assumed was shallow water that turned out to be high enough to drown the engine.
 
Werewolf said:
You can drown in an inch of water
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I guess if you're knocked out and face plant you could technically drown in an inch of water, but it's not very likely lol

On topic I think if they don't find a body in the next few days it's probably more likely that she's either been abducted or chosen to walk away from her life
 
Still very strange how there doesn’t seem to be any form leads on this case. It’s like she fell into an black hole or something. Must be terrible for the family.
 
BowdonUK said:
Because I questioned the police declaring she fell in the river so early on?
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If they had done that then you'd be right to question it, however as far as I'm aware they haven't actually done that.

To all the people saying "oh if she'd fallen in then she could just get out again easily" - go fill up your bath, get your duvet, put it in the bath, and then try to pick it up again.
 
Haggisman said:
To all the people saying "oh if she'd fallen in then she could just get out again easily" - go fill up your bath, get your duvet, put it in the bath, and then try to pick it up again.
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Yep, then imagine water that's 3-5 degrees in temperature, it just knocks all of the energy right out of you. One of the effects of cold water shock is reduced bloodflow to your muscles, so you lose all your strength really quickly.

The best thing you can do, if you ever fall into a river or lake is to not to fight it or try to swim, just keep your lungs full of air, take the pain and let your body deal with it - it takes around 60 seconds for your body to start to acclimatise, after that if you can tread water or stay afloat without panicing - your chances of being rescued or surviving are way higher.
 
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Iron Man said:
Still very strange how there doesn’t seem to be any form leads on this case. It’s like she fell into an black hole or something. Must be terrible for the family.
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Having said that, I suppose it is pretty unlikely she would be abducted. She's not the right profile. Also there are no signs of anything being off here. Although it's very unusual, there certainly are cases of people falling in to rivers and never being found again.
 
Screeeech said:
Yep, then imagine water that's 3-5 degrees in temperature, it just knocks all of the energy right out of you. One of the effects of cold water shock is reduced bloodflow to your muscles, so you lose all your strength really quickly.

The best thing you can do, if you ever fall into a river or lake is to not to fight it or try to swim, just keep your lungs full of air, take the pain and let your body deal with it - it takes around 60 seconds for your body to start to acclimatise, after that if you can tread water or stay afloat without panicing - your chances of being rescued or surviving are way higher.
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At 3-5 degrees C you have about 15 minutes to get dry or you are exhausted. If you are still in the water, you drown. Even if you get out you have no more than another 15 mins before you could be dead.
 
Iirc people have drowned right in front of loved ones, it can be quite hard to spot and lifeguards are trained specifically to spot it.
 
If she weighed 20 stone or was a minority then the story would never have even made the news, and certainly not day after day.
 
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