Soldato
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Wouldn't go that far chief ... its the FA cup. Just wait till Oxford tonk Arsenal next week.
The Emirates FA Cup 3rd Round ** Spoilers ** [6th - 9th January 2023]
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Soldato
The transparency with VAR is a joke. Why can we not hear what decision they made at Stockley Park? I know they won't turn the refs mike on cos we'll hear swearies but they could let us hear the other end.
Rugby or cricket you hear exactly what the video ref says.
Rugby or cricket you hear exactly what the video ref says.
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Think I would have rather that late goal stood than a replay :/ We clearly didn't play well but I don't think we were as bad as we were vs Brentford or even Leicester today, it just looked it because Wolves played really well. They've always been a decent footballing side but I thought their composure and passing today, to play through our press was outstanding. Ait-Nouri in particular was outstanding.
It does however a single camera angle needs to be able to see the ball being played and the potentially offside forward in the same shot. The same thing happened for Arsenal's first goal vs us where no camera angle could see the ball being played and Saka in the build-up to the goal so they couldn't make a decision.
You missed the Juve(?) disallowed goal from a few months back where they didn't spot the defender playing everybody yards onside.
Not really. The linesman gave it offside and VAR is set up by morons.
I'm not saying it's not a stupid situation, but it's not favouritism it's just a terrible system
Caporegime
VVD and Diaz aside, that was our strongest 11 vs a team who are 19th in the league and made 9 changes.
We were shocking but no team has to play well to get chances at our goal anymore. Last season it was the diagonal over Trent, this season it’s a single ball down both wings or over the top of the CBs. We’re a completely broken team this season.
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That is the most obviously corrupt VAR I've ever seen. Wolves' defender deliberately plays it back to Salah because why wouldn't you? Then handily there's no camera to record the Wolves player being offside from 2 backwards headers. Absolute nonsense.
The official rules show the Salah goal is onside. Its a crap rule yes but how is it corrupt if its in the rules?
Second one is exactly like Arsenal v Liverpool, Saka clearly off but no Var camera could pick it up. Corrupt? no, just poor that cameras dont cover all the pitch at various stadiums it seems
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Makes sense. I guess they don't have many big games at Anfield so you can't really expect them to have enough cameras to run VAR properly. /s
Big enough for them to live rent free in your head
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Yeah, I'd be delighted spawning a draw at home against a relegation candidate. Good work Liverpool.
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Wolves did play well though. As I said, we clearly didn't play well but it wasn't a case of 1 pass and you're running straight at our defence today as it has been so many times this season. Tactically and technically Wolves were excellent. When we tried to press them they'd pick passes around our midfield to get at our defence and if and when we did get close to pinching the ball high up the pitch, they always had the out ball to Traore.
Lmao you're actually suggesting allowing the Salah goal is corrupt VAR despite it literally being in the laws of the game?
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Have a bang at the second sentance.
Goals like the Salah goal have nothing to do with VAR and have long been a contentious issue that seemingly cannot be solved. I can't recall which ex official was talking about it sometime ago but whoever it was basically said refs cannot guess at what a defenders intentions were*, they can only make a decision based on the action carried out by the defender. In other words they can only judge whether the defender has made a deliberate action to play the ball, which is subjective. Today we can all say that the defender has only played the ball to stop it going to Salah however rewording the rule to make that offside will also make things that we'd all agree should be onside, offside. You'll have incidents where a defender has intentionally headed the ball backwards and a goal gets ruled out.
*I assume the reason for this is consistency. Giving officials another hugely subjective decision to make will end up with inconsistent decisions.
*I assume the reason for this is consistency. Giving officials another hugely subjective decision to make will end up with inconsistent decisions.
You made the claim then mentioned both incidents though didnt you.
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Caporegime
The one manager who whinges the most about the amount of games gets a replay. I bet the press conference on that will be hilarious
Knocked out in 3rd round for the 3rd year in a row.
Hah.
9 changes were made. Some players have never kicked a ball all season.
Understandable that there had to be some rotation due to QF but 9?
BBC knew what was up and put the match on at 6 so the world can enjoy the clown show hah.
Saying that I fully enjoyed the football thay was on show all day.
Hah.
9 changes were made. Some players have never kicked a ball all season.
Understandable that there had to be some rotation due to QF but 9?
BBC knew what was up and put the match on at 6 so the world can enjoy the clown show hah.
Saying that I fully enjoyed the football thay was on show all day.
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If you take a still from 10 minutes after the ball is played you're not likely to get to get a very accurate result.
There is one very poor quality image from the opposite side of the pitch floating around on twitter that shows the Wolves corner taker is, broadly speaking, in line with deepest defender however given the angle of the image, its nigh on impossible to tell if he's slightly on or slightly off.