I can't see that but this is simply offside. I didn't even need the lines for that.
The Emirates FA Cup Final Chelsea v Leicester City ** Spoilers ** [15th May 2021]
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I can't see that but this is simply offside. I didn't even need the lines for that.
Can we stop using "clear and obvious" when it comes to offsides. Ive lot count how many times people have said that doesn't come in here. He's half a yard offside.
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Absolutely amazing, just buzzing right now.
Just loving Aiyawatt on the pitch
Just loving Aiyawatt on the pitch
Oh, he's still the same. I saw this on twitter the other day:
The things he says and does sometimes
Soldato
As I came out from watching something on iPlayer, I realised the Final was on. Even though I generally dislike football, being from Leicester I thought I should tune in. I joined at 59 minutes... so literally just in time for the goal. I've probably only seen a small portion of a handful of games (at club level) in the last 30 years (I think I watched a few bits of a few games 5 years back, I went to an actual Leicester v Watford back when Lineker played against John Barnes!) but I have to say, I really enjoyed that 30 minutes of football 
Well done Blue Army (do they still call them that? 
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Well done Blue Army (do they still call them that? )
Soldato
I know that by the laws of the game it was the "correct" decision but in my opinion it's just ripping the joy out of the game! No-one can celebrate a goal properly and with the best will in the world it wouldn't have been given as offside by anyone other than a computer!
I'd like to see it go personally!
You mean like VAR lets a goal stand one week, then next week doesn't? All you do when you have this rubbish system they dreamt up for football is kill off the atmosphere with 50/50 decisions being agonised over by video referees and celebrations becoming meaningless.
I said 'clear and obvious', because that is the precise wording of the law.
I like watching sports, I like watching football. I don't like watching video referees drawing lines over still frames on replays. That's not what the sport is supposed to be about for me, maybe that's the part you enjoy, if so, I don't get it.
I'm happy Leicester won btw, so no sour grapes.
No it isn't.
He's half a yard off. This isn't a close decision. What you are wanting is referees just judge it at the time...that would be unfair to Leicester
Caporegime
I would definitely take Rodgers at Arsenal.
The offside decision in the Leicester v Quins game today would probably have been offside if they drew lines on the pitch.
They didn't though, it was so close that they wouldn't have gained any significant advantage from it, it led to a wonderful try and the fans got to celebrate a great bit of entertaining sport without some nerd with a ruler raining on their parade.
I've said previously stop drawing lines and use your eyes. No lines needed today. He's half a yard off lmao
I'm not sure he'd take that job to be honest. Potter at Brighton would be my pick for Arsenal
This is an awful idea and thankfully will never happen. Camera angles will make certain decisions look more off/onside than they are. You'd end up with the same incident resulting in difference outcomes because of the position of cameras at different stadiums.
The only drawback to var for offside decisions is the delay and not knowing of a goal will stand or not. That's going to change in the next 18 months or so.
The wording of the law for offsides makes no mention of clear and obvious. It's either offside or he isn't. In this case he was offside. The drawing of lines, while necessary, wasn't even needed in this case, on the freeze frame it was clear to the naked eye.
Stop harping on about rugby, it's completely different.
I’d honestly be so gutted for Leicester if the linesman hadn’t flagged, it wasn’t offside and VAR didn’t exist. That’s what VAR is there for.
The hatred for VAR for offside is misplaced. Blame the rule instead, hopefully they’ll rework it but knowing the organisations involved we’ll probably be disappointed.
The hatred for VAR for offside is misplaced. Blame the rule instead, hopefully they’ll rework it but knowing the organisations involved we’ll probably be disappointed.
All the complaints around var for offsides will be gone the moment an automated system is implemented, not by changing the offside rule.
We had close offside decisions before var, some would be accurate and some would be inaccurate but we kind of accepted it. Two things have changed with var, we're getting more accurate and consistent decisions (a good thing obviously) and we're taking time out of the game to look at these decisions, not knowing if we can celebrate or not. It's the waiting around, not knowing if it's on or off that's causing all the issues. Changing the offside law or implementing a margin of error won't change the fundemental issue with var for offsides - we're still going to be taking time out of the game to check whether something is on or off like we do now, we'll just be measuring from a different point.
An automated system fixes everything. There will be no more delays while we check the decision and it will be like the old days where we (kind of) just accept the decision, this time with the added confidence that it was correct or at least consistent. People will accept somebody being 5cm offside as long as it's consistent and we don't have this delay, not knowing what's going on.
Soldato
You mean like the perfectly enjoyable entire history of football until VAR came in? Unfair how - as long as both teams are subject to the same rules, how can it be unfair?
All I'm saying is that I preferred the days when the attacking player was given the benefit of the doubt.
I preferred it when lampard's goal was disallowed at the world cup as well, great days!
Caporegime
Why do we have linesmen then? If we don't have them it's equally (un)fair to both teams. I love how you seem to think the 'perfectly enjoyable entire history of football' didn't have games ruined by decisions.