Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%
  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .
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Tefal said:
Austria is threatening to sue them if they do it
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Well that would be interesting, as you need to display this in Austria.

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Needless to say, I didn't bother entering the country when I did a euro driving tour.
 
The likelihood is we will stay in.

There is no chance of another vote for a generation.

The EU can continue its push towards a single superstate.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-warns-Tory-minister.html?ito=social-facebook

Chris Grayling, the leader of the Commons, pointed to a document signed last September in Rome by the speakers of the national parliaments in Germany, France, Italy and Luxembourg.
It says that 'concrete proposals' to deepen EU integration towards a 'federal union of states' will be drawn up at a meeting in Luxembourg next month.
The joint declaration states: 'We are convinced that new impetus must be given to European integration. We believe that more, not less, Europe is needed to respond to the challenges we face.'
Ominously, it says that deeper integration 'should not be limited to the field of economic and fiscal matters, or to the internal market and to agricultural policy'.
It added: 'It should include all matters pertaining to the European ideal social and cultural affairs as well as foreign, security and defence policy.'
The paper goes on: 'The current moment offers an opportunity to move forward with European political integration, which could lead to a federal union of States.'
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you've gotta wonder - if something like that did happen, would we not end up leaving a few years down the line anyway?
 
OldCoals said:
The likelihood is we will stay in.

There is no chance of another vote for a generation.

The EU can continue its push towards a single superstate.
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There will be no stopping the juggernaut once there is a mandate for remain (although hopefully the "out" sentiment will be close like the Scottish referendum and it'll continue to simmer.)

I won't be foaming at the mouth if we vote to remain (presuming there's no foul play, that's democracy) but I can see it being a point of contention that won't go away for a long time if there isn't an overwhelming vote either way. A close result will still provide ammunition for other EU members to demand their own referendums IMO.
 
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I know you've all got a soft spot for Tony Blair:

Tony Blair said:
One of the things that’s extraordinary about the Leave campaign is that they cry foul when you point out what are obvious facts.

President Obama expressed his view about the consequences. It’s important we know that view. And what he says is obvious when you think about it. America’s got the TPP and TTIP to negotiate. These are two huge negotiations for them. If Britain opts out of Europe of course it’s going to take time to get to a specifically British deal. And it’s not just President Obama who’s saying it’s sensible for us to stay. I can’t think of a single world leader that’s a strong ally of Britain that’s not saying the same thing.

If Britain withdraws from Europe it’s also going to have to renegotiate its terms of entry into the single market, renegotiate all those regulations, all those laws. And it’s going to be doing it in a circumstance in which the most likely outcome is that we would have to do the same as Norway, the same as Switzerland, who in fact agree all these things about free movement of people – and obedience to European rules – without having any say over them.

On sovereignty, it’s also really quite hard to see what the Leave campaign is saying is the problem. When I was Prime Minister I can’t think of a single big decision I wanted to take that Europe told me I couldn’t. Not one on the NHS, on education, on tax, on welfare, on spending, on war and peace. Not one.

So in the end, when you come down to the practical arguments, they all stack one way. And that’s why I believe the British people will vote to stay.
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A question, google has been really unhelpful...what voting percentage is needed to leave/stay?

In the simplest of terms, if there was a 51/49 split vote either way, would that be sufficient or is a bigger lead required?
 
Tunney said:
I know you've all got a soft spot for Tony Blair:
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Watch the EU indecision and infighting on TTIP. It is as unlikely as ever to happen.

SixTwoSix said:
A question, google has been really unhelpful...what voting percentage is needed to leave/stay?

In the simplest of terms, if there was a 51/49 split vote either way, would that be sufficient or is a bigger lead required?
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I think it is how many times the EU force us to re-vote until they get an answer they like.
 
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Tunney said:
I know you've all got a soft spot for Tony Blair:
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I'm not sure which camp you're supporting by quoting Tony Bliar, but he's actually a good example of how those in power often succumb to political pressure to "toe the line" rather than representing the interests of their people or standing up for what they believe in.

Blair on the Euro:

Tony Blair told Newsnight's Jeremy Paxman he would be happy to be remembered as the man who told the British people they should join the single currency and that a political rejection of the euro would be "crazy". "I certainly believe passionately that this country and its destiny lies in Europe.
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"It is an economic union. We shouldn't, for political reasons, stand aside. I don't believe that would be a fulfilment of our national interest. I believe it would be a betrayal of our national interest."
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"Even if it [taking Britain into the euro] is unpopular, I will recommend it if it is the right thing to do."
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In a jointly written article with the spanish prime minister, Jose Maria Aznar, in the Financial Times, he said the euro "is changing the face of Europe" and the European Central Bank has delivered low inflation and high growth across the continent.

He also stressed the damage done to British business by exchange rate fluctuations.

He said: "Europe's economic fundamentals are sound: sounder than they have been for over a generation.

"The EU's economies are growing and it is important to underline that they are now creating jobs in Europe faster than almost anywhere else in the developed world.
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And then there's the illegal (according to the UN) Iraq War and the dodgy dossier (rings a bell with the recent Treasury propaganda).
 
delta0 said:
I think it is how many times the EU force us to re-vote until they get an answer they like.
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:D

Given the EU's track record of ignoring referendum outcomes and/or making people vote again, it really wouldn't surprise me if there was another vote 6 months after a marginal "leave".
 
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