Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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No!

We literally do not send 350m!

Sorry El_Jock I really do not want to be seen to be getting at you.

This is one of outs biggest campaign headlines and it is a lie.

It simply is not true that we send £350 million a week and worse the people telling you this know absolutely fine well that is not true.

The fact that so many have been misled in to believing this should shame our politicians and media for decades to come.
 
The way I see the 350m thing is like these 2 situations.

I go to a coffee shop and order coffee. I give them a £10 note then give me £8 change and a drink.

Or

I go to coffee shop I have £10 in coins in my pocket, I give them 2 and take my coffee.

In neither situation do I go complaining to people I paid £10 for cup of coffee.
 
I haven't tried to shout you down by the way, you have your opinion and I respect that, I just can't understand how an opinion can be formed on incorrect information and assumptions thats all.

No you haven't at all. But incorrect as such comes from which side we are looking at this from.

I generally believe in what I say.
 
You're so close...

The rebate never leaves Britain. We can spend it on whatever the hell we want. So we send somewhere in the region of £250m a week to the EU. Of that, some of that comes back, and that's the money that comes with strings attached.

More in the region of about £160 million, not £250 million and it will cost about that much if we want to access the EU trading market, not to mention adopting a lot of the regulations in order to do so, take Norway, they have that exact deal and although they are not technically in the EU, they have adopted about 3 quarters of the same regulations that a member has.
 
More in the region of about £160 million, not £250 million and it will cost about that much if we want to access the EU trading market, not to mention adopting a lot of the regulations in order to do so, take Norway, they have that exact deal and although they are not technically in the EU, they have adopted about 3 quarters of the same regulations that a member has.

But the 80% of SME's that have to deal with EU red tape but do not trade with europe no longer will need to deal with that red tape. If we are out of the EU then trade tarrifs and other things only effect those that trade with EU rather than all businesses in the UK.

we can also reclaim more of our fishing territory and not be left with just 20% of the fishing quota give to us for our own waters.
 
Christ on a bike... we do not send £350m to the EU.

At any point.

Ever.

The rebate (read, "discount") is applied then we pay our dues, then some of what's left is spent in the UK.

£350m a week is our gross liability to the EU, it's a valid figure to use. The poster you were having a go at also went on to clarify that we get some of that money back. I don't know why you felt it was OK to attack someone for being correct.
 
£350m a week is our gross liability to the EU, it's a valid figure to use. The poster you were having a go at also went on to clarify that we get some of that money back. I don't know why you felt it was OK to attack someone for being correct.

No, no it is not!

If we're guaranteed to have some of it back, it is a lie to say we give £350m a week away, because we don't.
 
If only the vote was decided on a cheerometer (it's a thing) :D.


I was under the impression trade tariffs only affected those who did trade in the EU :/.
 
Two not very interesting developments for me today. Firstly there are two Vote Leave signs that have been put up by the side of the road on my journey home. Some scrote has vandalised them with spray paint :mad: I dunno where these people get off :mad:

Secondly I met my first remainian in the wild! It was the lovely girl who cuts my hair. I asked her if she was going to vote, she didn't know, I said she should and advised her to get there early as there will probably be queues.
 
No, no it is not!

If we're guaranteed to have some of it back, it is a lie to say we give £350m a week away, because we don't.

Sorry, but you think that the way our rebate works is identical to a promotional offer in Argos. £350m a week is our gross liability to the EU - that is a fact, it may not be argued.
 
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