Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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i never said we would be 350m "better off", i said we would have 350m which is true when broken down to weekly chunks, the only difference now is we don't send 150m to never be seen again in the EU, with the remaining part being spent by the EU, we can pick what the whole lot gets spent on

You really do not get it.

The £350 million figure is a complete and utter fabrication.

Because of the rebate (and this where the confusion lies as frankly it is what we call a discount) that is NOT what we currently pay and so there is no way we can suddenly have that amount to spend.

Worse is if we leave forget the scaremongering we will stay have to pay the EU to trade with them !

Maybe we will not have to pay as much but it will not be free.
 
I'm not British yet ( I am living 10 years in London ) but I think you guys should vote for BrExit emigrantion should be controlled like in Canada ,USA or Australia.

There will be no problem to join Europe again after a few years if it necessary.

Straight into Schengen, the Euro, no rebate...

I think few can argue with Cameron when he said out really is out, forever (unless something really dramatically changes). This isn't a "let's see what we can do out of the EU, safe in the knowledge we can rejoin on the same (or better) terms than before" situation.
 
Yes we let the flood barriers open by choice, which is even worse. But if Cameron wanted to resist immigration ( he doesn't at all ) EU would not allow.

Vote leave, and we take back control completely and allow a new thinking and regime looking forward.

The EU can't stop all, or even most of our immigration. Miss than half come from outside the EU.

In or out, it ain't stopping.
 
I'm sorry, but you are making little sense, I'm beginning to think we might be talking at crossed purposes.

We only send £150m a week. So how, by leaving, do we suddenly have £350m a week? Where is the other £200m coming from?

Ok,

In a per week way even though that's not how it works, but for impact that's how its been broken down.

we send 350m to the EU

They send us back 200m, which the EU spends on stuff in our country...farmers etc

the other 150m is the fee for being a member of the EU

So, if we leave

We would be 150m Better off outright i.e no fee, but as we never send anything we can spend the whole 350m on what we want, now some of that maybe the same as the EU spend i.e farmers but some of it could be used for the NHS for example.

The issue everyone is having is that it got broken down into weekly for impact but that is not how it works,
 
The EU can't stop all, or even most of our immigration. Miss than half come from outside the EU.

In or out, it ain't stopping.

Total reform is what follows. Leave and Cameron and Osbourne are out of jobs and we get someone more willing to put in to action the things we need.
 
The EU can't stop all, or even most of our immigration. Miss than half come from outside the EU.

In or out, it ain't stopping.

Cameron would not answer why he has not dealt with the immigration from outside the EU when questioned on Question time. he whittered on with the same rhetoric about it being hard and out of our control and difficult to manage.

Then David Dimbleby turned around and told him that controling immigration from outside the EU is fully within our control and Cameron had nothing to come back with.

The problem is not just the EU, it is people like Cameron who gain from being in the EU. They cause the issues for the majority of people yet never have to deal with the problems in their daily lives themselves.
 
Happy to see Gisela Stuart there, she was very good in the last debate. Not sure people want to hear from a Scottish conservative...
 
Ok,

In a per week way even though that's not how it works, but for impact that's how its been broken down.

we send 350m to the EU

They send us back 200m, which the EU spends on stuff in our country...farmers etc

the other 150m is the fee for being a member of the EU

So, if we leave

We would be 150m Better off outright i.e no fee, but as we never send anything we can spend the whole 350m on what we want, now some of that maybe the same as the EU spend i.e farmers but some of it could be used for the NHS for example.

The issue everyone is having is that it got broken down into weekly for impact but that is not how it works,

You're so close...

The rebate never leaves Britain. We can spend it on whatever the hell we want. So we send somewhere in the region of £250m a week to the EU. Of that, some of that comes back, and that's the money that comes with strings attached.
 
Ok,

In a per week way even though that's not how it works, but for impact that's how its been broken down.

we send 350m to the EU

They send us back 200m, which the EU spends on stuff in our country...farmers etc

the other 150m is the fee for being a member of the EU

So, if we leave

We would be 150m Better off outright i.e no fee, but as we never send anything we can spend the whole 350m on what we want, now some of that maybe the same as the EU spend i.e farmers but some of it could be used for the NHS for example.

The issue everyone is having is that it got broken down into weekly for impact but that is not how it works,

Christ on a bike... we do not send £350m to the EU.

At any point.

Ever.

The rebate (read, "discount") is applied then we pay our dues, then some of what's left is spent in the UK.

Total reform is what follows. Leave and Cameron and Osbourne are out of jobs and we get someone more willing to put in to action the things we need.

What reform? We voted for Dave. Should he step down, we will vote in the same policies. This was already the nation's choice.
 
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