But that's not the choice here - your motivations are all wrong surely? You can be in the EU and still be British!
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
- Thread starter Rilot
- Start date
- Status
But that's not the choice here - your motivations are all wrong surely? You can be in the EU and still be British!
Deleted member 2277
Deleted member 2277
Really? For now maybe, but 20, 30 years time? Britain will just be a state in the European Union. We will all be European and our passports will say European Ctizen.
Deleted member 2277
Deleted member 2277
Vote leave then. Make my sacrifice worth while.
I'm voting leave and so are the large majority of my family, friends and work colleagues.
Interestingly one of my social circles is almost 100% remain. That's a creative /artistic circle so probably more optimistic in outlook rather than pragmatic. They're entitled to their views.
Soldato
- Joined
- 20 Jul 2004
- Posts
- 3,636
- Location
- Dublin, Ireland
The one thing everybody should do is vote. Probably the biggest decision in your lifetime, In or out, just ****in vote.
It would be a Crime not to.
Nate
It would be a Crime not to.
Nate
You seem mighty sure of that.
British and European are not mutually exclusive, you can be both.
That's not what your voting for. British and European are not mutually exclusive, and are both a matter of geography.
I'm voting leave and so are the large majority of my family, friends and work colleagues.
Interestingly one of my social circles is almost 100% remain. That's a creative /artistic circle so probably more optimistic in outlook rather than pragmatic. They're entitled to their views.
Interestingly, I also struggle to find anyone voting stay. Everyone is voting leave! And I'm in Scotland! Where is the remain majority that's we're supposed to have?
Soldato
- Joined
- 1 Mar 2010
- Posts
- 6,316
I hope you didn't got to the University of Bristol, because that would just be too perfect! It's known as the Viridian Curse there. But don't worry -- the condition is not lethal and gets funkier as you age.
A reply from the comments section of the DE!
Quote
"
A lesson from our past.
In the morning of 21 October 1805, the most famous naval signal in British history was sent from HMS Victory, the flagship of the English fleet, by Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson.
The words were “England expects that every man will do his duty". The battle was won and Napoleon prevented from invading England and making it part of France.
Of course our forbears fought two more recent wars to prevent the takeover of our country by another European country.
We face a situation today with a further takeover pending;this time an insidious one, led primarily by the politicians of those two nations who attempted it in the past, but also aided by the traitors in our own government. It is already well advanced.
The objective, as with most invasions in history, is to subject us the their rule and remove our own democratic rule which has not only been hard won but has served us and the others who adopted it very well for centuries.
Sadly this war has been going on for years with the imposition by stealth of the various EU treaties which have been designed to remove our democracy, aided by several of “our” politicians whose acts would have seen them executed in times past.
Today, the most important day in our recent history, we have the opportunity to reverse that and prevent further erosion of our rights whilst restricting the recent EU sanctioned mass immigration which is changing the face of our country.
We only hold our country in trust for our descendants.No-one has the right to give it away and doing so is an insult to those who fought for us in wars, whether that be the men of England in 1805 or the men and women of the UK and its allies in later wars.
If one were to consider the future of our kids and their descendants then there is only one way to vote and that is “LEAVE”. We can remain friends with the countrymen of Europe without being part of the EU."
Quote
"
A lesson from our past.
In the morning of 21 October 1805, the most famous naval signal in British history was sent from HMS Victory, the flagship of the English fleet, by Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson.
The words were “England expects that every man will do his duty". The battle was won and Napoleon prevented from invading England and making it part of France.
Of course our forbears fought two more recent wars to prevent the takeover of our country by another European country.
We face a situation today with a further takeover pending;this time an insidious one, led primarily by the politicians of those two nations who attempted it in the past, but also aided by the traitors in our own government. It is already well advanced.
The objective, as with most invasions in history, is to subject us the their rule and remove our own democratic rule which has not only been hard won but has served us and the others who adopted it very well for centuries.
Sadly this war has been going on for years with the imposition by stealth of the various EU treaties which have been designed to remove our democracy, aided by several of “our” politicians whose acts would have seen them executed in times past.
Today, the most important day in our recent history, we have the opportunity to reverse that and prevent further erosion of our rights whilst restricting the recent EU sanctioned mass immigration which is changing the face of our country.
We only hold our country in trust for our descendants.No-one has the right to give it away and doing so is an insult to those who fought for us in wars, whether that be the men of England in 1805 or the men and women of the UK and its allies in later wars.
If one were to consider the future of our kids and their descendants then there is only one way to vote and that is “LEAVE”. We can remain friends with the countrymen of Europe without being part of the EU."
Soldato
- Joined
- 10 Aug 2006
- Posts
- 5,207
I tend to agree actually, contrary to what I said earlier about not voting. This isn't really the same as a GE where we don't have proportional representation.
I hope you didn't got to the University of Bristol, because that would just be too perfect! It's known as the Viridian Curse there. But don't worry -- the condition is not lethal and gets funkier as you age.
Sorry to disappoint! I think it comes with spending a certain amount of time working in the city and around the world then realising how messed up things really are.
I really thought we'd get a pledge today for reform of the EU. Tusk hinted at it but Juncker seems to want none of it and is calling our bluff. Bad move given the contagion working its way through the EU. Sad times.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 9 Nov 2009
- Posts
- 25,417
- Location
- Planet Earth
Soldato
- Joined
- 20 Jul 2004
- Posts
- 3,636
- Location
- Dublin, Ireland
Juncker calling our bluff is a very dangerous move by him IMO, not to mention slightly arrogant. Especially so late, the day before we go to the polls!
I hope the UK votes to leave the EU and it back fires for him, with any luck it might wipe some of the smirk off his face at the same time.
He certainly wasn't going to offer reform of the EU, in his eyes there's nothing wrong with "Project Europe".
It certainly shows how out of touch they are if they think a stern warning from the EU is going to change peoples minds at this point.
Soldato
- Joined
- 20 Jul 2004
- Posts
- 3,636
- Location
- Dublin, Ireland
What he was not offering was renegotiation of the February deal, nor the existing British membership of the EU. Reform of the EU is not in his power to give, that depends on the 28 states to agree.
Nate
Last edited:
It reaffirms his arrogance in my view and a big part of what the general public believe is wrong with the EU today.
- Status