Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)

[D.P.]

BMW and Rolls Royce have begun their scare tactics. They have sent out letters to their 8,000 strong workforce saying a Brexit would jeopardise jobs.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/02/rolls-royce-tells-employees-britain-better-in-eu

I expect this to become common place with foreign owned companies soon.

How is it a scare tactic, it's just reaponsible management warning their workers of possible future lay-offs.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Cheaper rented, better pay, NHS standards rising, the ability to kick people out of the country, less chance of a terror attack, more secure boards. Better run schools. Higher level of literacy, less welfare spending my list goes on.

What is a secure board? Cheaper 'rented'? Why are so many 'out' posts so badly written?

We already have the ability to 'kick out' more than 50% of the net migration to the UK each year. Do we do that?

We can still trade with the Eu by joining the European free trade association, which has free trade with Canada back door to US.
I'd much prefer to join the efta than be a member of the Eu.

Is this the same EFTA in which all members have free movement with the EU?

What was that about 'more secure boards' again?

 

[scorza]

How is it a scare tactic, it's just reaponsible management warning their workers of possible future lay-offs.

You don't think talking about possible future lay-offs is scary for those workers?

 

[stewski]

You don't think talking about possible future lay-offs is scary for those workers?

And you don't think It's not necessarily a tactic; more a likely outcome as perceived by the managers of a multinational company.

 

[[TW]Fox]

You don't think talking about possible future lay-offs is scary for those workers?

I'm sure it is, but it's the reality of working for a firm that has currently structured its workforce in such a way that it can take advantage of free movement internally without worrying about borders.

 

[Skunkworks]

BMW and Rolls Royce have begun their scare tactics. They have sent out letters to their 8,000 strong workforce saying a Brexit would jeopardise jobs.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/02/rolls-royce-tells-employees-britain-better-in-eu

I expect this to become common place with foreign owned companies soon.

That should be illegal, it's a veiled threat. It reminds me of Republican business owners in the US saying votes for Obama will lead to job losses.

 

[dowie]

The UK's long-term prospects could be "brighter" outside the EU, a business leader has said.
John Longworth, head of the British Chambers of Commerce, described the EU referendum as a choice between the "devil and the deep blue sea".
He told its annual conference that voters faced "undoubtedly a tough choice".
One was staying in an "essentially unreformed EU", with the other being the uncertainty of leaving the union.
"Decision making in business suffers from the pressures of the short-term and is naturally focused on the interests of the particular business concerned," Mr Longworth told delegates.
"If I were to ask the business community one thing in this referendum, it would be to look to the long-term and the wider interests of the society in which you operate, and make your choice based not on the next financial year, but on what you want for your children and grandchildren."
BCC members will be surveyed so their views could inform the debate ahead of the vote in June, he added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35716864

 

[Burnsy2023]

I'm sure it is, but it's the reality of working for a firm that has currently structured its workforce in such a way that it can take advantage of free movement internally without worrying about borders.

Indeed, ultimately these are the realities of the consequences of deciding to leave. They can be scary for people because this directly affects them, rather than more fluffy topics like sovereignty.

 

[Tosno]

I don't think cultural marxism has eroded people's desire of the greater good, enough to make them give into threats over their job, if they vote out to save the nation, in fact it will have the opposite effect.

 

[pinkpill]

lol, would love to see any evidence to back that lot up, nice list though!

Before we join the common market NHS standards were the best in the world, education standards were the best in the world. before the explosion in new member states and free travel house prices and rents were lower, and wages were higher in the 90s.
The EU is just a medium for companies to get there way, it does not care about its people, it just focus on the consumer.

In the 90s you were paid more stacking shelves than now, working late night you'd get double pay, Sundays you'd get double pay that has all gone. Even labouring you get more money those days. The influx of more people pushes down wages in the UK many reports agree, the only people to benefit are the wealthy.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Before we join the common market NHS standards were the best in the world, education standards were the best in the world. before the explosion in new member states and free travel house prices and rents were lower, and wages were higher in the 90s.
The EU is just a medium for companies to get there way, it does not care about its people, it just focus on the consumer

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[Efour]

Before we join the common market NHS standards were the best in the world, education standards were the best in the world. before the explosion in new member states and free travel house prices and rents were lower, and wages were higher in the 90s.
The EU is just a medium for companies to get there way, it does not care about its people, it just focus on the consumer

Erm arguably maybe but i don't think the two are directly comparable. The EU isn't to blame for Thatcher for example... Brits voted for her.

I think you just don't like inflation...

 

[Freakbro]

Why are so many 'out' posts so badly written?

Hmm....let's think about that one....

I'm sure there's an answer that's acceptable on these forums somewhere....

 

[[TW]Fox]

The EU is just a medium for companies to get there way, it does not care about its people, it just focus on the consumer.

Explain the huge amount of consumer protection legislation then?

In the 90s you were paid more stacking shelves than now

Citation needed.

 

[pinkpill]

Erm arguably maybe but i don't think the two are directly comparable. The EU isn't to blame for Thatcher for example... Brits voted for her.

I think you just don't like inflation...

Inflation is a hidden tax on the consumer, and what is the main cause of inflation, and what is the main cause deflation, these can be applied to what's happened and happening to the UK.

 

[pinkpill]

Explain the huge amount of consumer protection legislation then?



Citation needed.

It's just a smoke screen, it's about profit but hidden using the smoke screen.
When consumer gets conned the regulators join in and fine the company who keeps the fine? Does the consumer ever received any part of that fine? ends up in the regulators pockets never in the consumers pockets.

 

[Cosimo]

Citation needed.

Talk about nitpicking...

By the way, are you for staying in the EU?

 

[Freakbro]

It's just a smoke screen, it's about profit but hidden using the smoke screen.

Just give up while you're ahead only so far behind

 

[D.P.]

You don't think talking about possible future lay-offs is scary for those workers?

Would you rather the company lie and pretend everything will be rosy? There is no tactic about it, it's just rpvidibg facts to employees so they can prepare for possible outcomes.

 

[Danthus]

Considering Rose is leading an in campaign he is doing a wonderful job convincing people to leave.