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Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (May Poll)
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Polls are essentially pointless, we literally wont know until the vote as no one as the error range is too high.
Which considering one was done for the Scottish one, this should be far more divisive and harmful to the country.
I wouldn't take any notice of that as it can't be trusted.
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Yeah like the rest of the pro EU polls floating about too.
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I'm now sticking a finger in each ear and ignoring both campaigns. I suggest any sane person does the same and makes their own, principled and as well as is possible, informed decision. It's now a case of hysteria and facts be damned.
I vote for local, undiluted and accountable democracy looking at a long term view. It won't be rainbows and unicorns and may be painful short-term but hey, we won't get this chance again. Booting out Cameron and Osborne is the icing on the cake.
I vote for local, undiluted and accountable democracy looking at a long term view. It won't be rainbows and unicorns and may be painful short-term but hey, we won't get this chance again. Booting out Cameron and Osborne is the icing on the cake.
There's no point in listening to anyone or group that has stated a firm opinion, or especially is seeking to persuade you one way or another. Try to seek out information (e.g. Europe In or Out by David Charter is a good starter) that does not come to any conclusions themselves and then make your own mind up. If you don't you're liable to get misrepresented facts and in some cases pure BS, and would risk having your own confirmation bias by listening to theirs. IMO of course
The current generation of politicians won't be around for long, though. I don't believe Boris is doing anything apart from furtherimg his own political ambitions, but when the electorate can put the fear of god into a government by way of engagement then things can change.
What we need is for electoral reform to be on the agenda next so we can get away from this ridiculous system of pendulum politics government.
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The most worrying thing about this referendum is just how few people are aware they need to register for a vote.
The turn out is going to be lousy.
The turn out is going to be lousy.
If you've been able to vote in the May elections you're registered (although bizarrely if you're not registered you can register online, but you can't find out online if you already are).
How do they work out who can vote in the local elections but not the referendum / general elections? I can't remember when I registered it was so long ago, but did I tick a box to say I was a UK citizen?
I assume the qualification to able to vote in the May elections is a subset of those required to vote in the EU, so if you qualified for May you qualify for the EU.
Anyway the text is here:
http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/upcoming-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum
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You've always needed to be registered to vote and most already are. There isn't some sort of special referendum vote registration .
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Individual voter registration was brought in last year and that caused one million people to disappear from the electoral roll. A cynic would say that the Tories did it to kick as many left-learning young people off the roll as possible. Unfortunately the government now needs their votes in the EU referendum.
I've had my polling card delivered and I did not specifically register to vote in the referendum.
More unnecessary regulation for Netflix etc incoming? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4798d428-1d19-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html Why can't they stop meddling in things and let the free market decide what it wants?
Soldato
Yup got my card through today and didn't register yet, which i thought i had to since people were making such a fuss over it.
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Other than going AV or PR electoral reform will never happen in the way it should be envisaged: That is to say a government that is there to do its job in serving the people and not their own interests.
The true reform that is actually needed more than anything is not a political revolution but a peoples revolution where collectively we the people make a stand. Differences aside in minor issues in order to tackle the major ones.
Tax dodging and tax havens are something for example that collectively we needed to agree on. It is tax dodging and after a little further reading the £120bn in unpaid or dodged tax by both wealthy, super rich and the big corporations is a drastically underestimated figure. If I were to guestimate I would think the figure of dodged tax payments etc and sweetheart deals is closer to £500bn.
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