Soldato
Only ones getting worried about this are the Brexit mob.
I'm a bit worried about how much tax payers money Cameron will spend
Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)
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I'm a bit worried about how much tax payers money Cameron will spend
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Can someone explain this to me. People say if the UK leaves the EU we will just start trading with countries further afield. What exactly are we going to trade?
Manufacturing is almost dead in this country, our economy is service sector based. We are nowhere near the same league as countries such as Germany, Japan when it comes to producing and exporting products. We are not rich in natural resources.
Why would we give up power and influence in the world, for the sake of a few migrants that are supposedly bleeding us dry? Last time I checked a lot of them have jobs. The migrant problem is temporary and will eventually resolve itself in the longterm. Leaving the EU is like jumping out of a skyscraper without a parachute. There is no plan in place.
Manufacturing is almost dead in this country, our economy is service sector based. We are nowhere near the same league as countries such as Germany, Japan when it comes to producing and exporting products. We are not rich in natural resources.
Why would we give up power and influence in the world, for the sake of a few migrants that are supposedly bleeding us dry? Last time I checked a lot of them have jobs. The migrant problem is temporary and will eventually resolve itself in the longterm. Leaving the EU is like jumping out of a skyscraper without a parachute. There is no plan in place.
I'm a bit worried about how much tax payers money Cameron will spend
Let's see if it's more than the subsidised bar at the HOC
Soldato
I don't agree with this at all - see here (state of manufacturing) and here (expansion of manufacturing since the millennium) for example. The UK is crying out for more engineers and STEM graduates - this isn't just to fill Barclays with more quants analysts!
I don't agree with this at all - see here (state of manufacturing) and here (expansion of manufacturing since the millennium) for example. The UK is crying out for more engineers and STEM graduates - this isn't just to fill Barclays with more quants analysts!
Maybe if they stopped offering bloody useless degrees in events management (and the like), more people would get into STEM subjects
And if they invested in vocational training, instead of only employing graduates.
They create this abusrd criteria, then complain about how they're "forced" to hire foreign graduates.
Invest more in training, and stop expecting fully qualified people to drop into your lap.
Soldato
I don't agree with this at all - see here (state of manufacturing) and here (expansion of manufacturing since the millennium) for example. The UK is crying out for more engineers and STEM graduates - this isn't just to fill Barclays with more quants analysts!
OK, but out of those examples - most of industries, aren't British-Britsh. 90% of aeronautics depend on export markets, 80+% of electronics are in hands of foreign investors, same with Chem/Pharma, then there is "British" car industry - would Nissan, Honda or Toyota keep manufacturing in an expensive country outside of EU, with so many cheaper countries and potential new member states offering cost savings and government grants, and so on, so forth.
The general population are thick as pig **** and will vote to remain.
We wont win the leave vote I can guarantee it.
If Iceland can do it so can the UK. They told the bankers to shove it, which is a bigger finger in the arse than exiting the EU.
We wont win the leave vote I can guarantee it.
If Iceland can do it so can the UK. They told the bankers to shove it, which is a bigger finger in the arse than exiting the EU.
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The general population are thick as pig **** and will vote to remain.
I'm going to vote to remain
Soldato
The general population are thick as pig **** and will vote to remain.
We wont win the leave vote I can guarantee it.
If Iceland can do it so can the UK. They told the bankers to shove it, which is a bigger finger in the arse than exiting the EU.
Genuine LOL
You are special - Don't ever change Itchy
Soldato
New poll needed.
I was speaking to the missus on the EU today, I said "how will you be voting"?
She said" Have you seen how much money the EU has put into Liverpool?"
I said "It costs us £55 million a day to be in the EU"
She would not believe me. So yes GP is thick as two short planks, lots of toys in the attic to play with but understand nothing.
We are staying in that's for sure.
She said" Have you seen how much money the EU has put into Liverpool?"
I said "It costs us £55 million a day to be in the EU"
She would not believe me. So yes GP is thick as two short planks, lots of toys in the attic to play with but understand nothing.
We are staying in that's for sure.
Soldato
The general population are thick as pig **** and will vote to remain.
We wont win the leave vote I can guarantee it.
If Iceland can do it so can the UK. They told the bankers to shove it, which is a bigger finger in the arse than exiting the EU.
This has to be the worst troll attempt ever.
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You are special - Don't ever change Itchy
The is always a special ********* in the class.
I was speaking to the missus on the EU today, I said "how will you be voting"?
She said" Have you seen how much money the EU has put into Liverpool?"
I said "It costs us £55 million a day to be in the EU"
She would not believe me. So yes GP is thick as two short planks, lots of toys in the attic to play with but understand nothing.
We are staying in that's for sure.
Some of that figure is given back to us as a rebate, btw.
So anyhow... if we leave, how much of that £55 million do we save? The answer is not going to be £55 million.
What I've read is that after rebates we pay about £24 million per day to the EU. Again, if we leave, how much of that do we save?
It's great that the Leave side can throw around all these figures, but nobody - nobody - is actually prepared to quantify the changes that will happen if we leave. So how much will we save? Seems nobody knows! Could be... nothing!
Although he certainly won't be able to answer that (none of us could), it's fairly likely that we, along with Germany and France, are net contributors to the EU. Apparently France and Italy are the biggest net contributors, due to rebates that the UK, Germany and others receive.
Poland are apparently the biggest net beneficiary. But the idea of the EU is to harmonise and bring everybody up to the same standard of living. So it's hard to begrudge the Poles being dragged into the 21st century
The biggest question, that again itchy can't answer, is how much of that money will we save by leaving the EU? Again, nobody can answer, because will will still be required to contribute to the EU if we wish to have access to the EU markets.
So £55 million, £24 million... it's meaningless. Leaving the EU won't magically mean we stop having to make these payments.
Since when has £55 million been chump change.
Even if we got back a 1/4 plus say another 25%, its still 22.5million a day for what? (I know what you going to do I done it on purpose)
What really gets me about the EU, otherwise I would not give a ****, is that a UK Judge can rule something only to be over turned by an unelected retard in Brussels.
Plus the accounts fiddling, I would love to fiddle my accounts like the EU.
Never ever been signed off.
Even if we got back a 1/4 plus say another 25%, its still 22.5million a day for what? (I know what you going to do I done it on purpose)
What really gets me about the EU, otherwise I would not give a ****, is that a UK Judge can rule something only to be over turned by an unelected retard in Brussels.
Plus the accounts fiddling, I would love to fiddle my accounts like the EU.
Never ever been signed off.
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Most, likely leaving the EU would cost us more money than staying even before the extra costs of economic damage done during/after the Brexit. While we contribute to the EU , remember that the EU currently carries out a host of regulatory functions that we'd then have to create new institutions to manage.
As said, it's more like £24 million after rebates.
Even if we got back a 1/4 plus say another 25%, its still 22.5million a day for what? (I know what you going to do I done it on purpose)
Yes, 1/4 plus 25% does tend to be close to one half
But that's a pure guess, isn't it. We don't know how much our contribution to the EU will change, if we leave the EU but wish to retain access to the EU market.
And that saving could be nullified by tariffs on our exports, and increased costs for UK businesses, or loss of business.
Again, nobody in the Leave camp is prepared to quantify these "savings", or even guarantee that there will be any.
Why would you trust a UK judge more? Why do you trust a UK politician more? Do you think no accounts get fiddled in the UK govt? Did the MP's expenses scandal pass you by? The money used to pay for duck ponds, for heating stables, for maintaining 2nd homes for mistresses?
The EU has had a positive effect in enhancing workers rights and consumer rights in this country. The EU have helped fund projects in my local area (Cornwall), which the UK govt couldn't care less about. It's London, London, London and the City and that's all they care about.
Since you realise that you're talking about national finances that normally operate in the billions.
Based on your £55m figure, that's approximately £20billion a year.
Annual tax receipts for 2014-15 were £515billion, source:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/501040/Jan16_Receipts_NS_Bulletin_Final.pdf
So that £20b equates to about 4% of tax receipts per year. Wow. How expensive.
Edit: corrected maths fail
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