Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

[scorza]

Just because they've moved doesn't make them well educated.

Actually I think you'll find that people in the Home Counties are generally better educated than most of the country.

 

[deuse]

"A crowd of migrants has burst through a barbed-wire fence on the Macedonia-Greece border using a steel pole as a battering ram"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35687257

Here we go again. Wonder where these scum come from.

 

[datalol-jack]

Actually I think you'll find that people in the Home Counties are generally better educated than most of the country.

You'll also find no magical link between local educational levels in the Home Counties and white flight, and other such charming trends. The outflow of internal migration from London is more strongly correlated with social grade, for one, and to a large extent it's the property investment and development that's driving them from London.

Hence why taking a polling snapshot map at face value isn't advisable. For example: you can't really tell from the picture whether the people are angry at the EU, at the government, at being poor or just angry.

"A crowd of migrants has burst through a barbed-wire fence on the Macedonia-Greece border using a steel pole as a battering ram"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35687257

Here we go again. Wonder where these scum come from.

They aren't scum, and it tells you in the article, if you would just read what you post. People got fed up, protested, got tear-gassed. That's the gist of it.

 

[MookJong]

Even with an exit, nothing will happen overnight. It will take a new PM and some time before immigration is under control.

 

[datalol-jack]

Even with an exit, nothing will happen overnight. It will take a new PM and some time before immigration is under control.

Leaving the EU won't stop the war in Syria, or the refugee flow from the conflict zones across Europe, either.

 

[Skunkworks]

They aren't scum, and it tells you in the article, if you would just read what you post. People got fed up, protested, got tear-gassed. That's the gist of it.

They good boys.

 

[datalol-jack]

They good boys.

They are refugees from a war zone.

 

[Skunkworks]

Even the BBC has stopped calling them refugees.

 

[deuse]

Even with an exit, nothing will happen overnight. It will take a new PM and some time before immigration is under control.

Cameron has been failing this for years. Now he says we will have to wait till 2020.

 

[datalol-jack]

Even the BBC has stopped calling them refugees.

5 instances of the term in the linked article alone, 3 if you discount the links to related stories. :|

 

[scorza]

Even with an exit, nothing will happen overnight. It will take a new PM and some time before immigration is under control.

Agreed, but unless we leave the EU then we have no chance of getting immigration under control.

 

[deuse]

They aren't scum, and it tells you in the article, if you would just read what you post. People got fed up, protested, got tear-gassed. That's the gist of it.

If you're going to break the laws of a country then be prepared to pay the price. Simples.
I'd put the gimmigrents on a plane and drop them off in Germany

 

[datalol-jack]

Agreed, but unless we leave the EU then we have no chance of getting immigration under control.

Hang on. The PM fails to lower immigration he had full control over without damaging the economy, and you think the EU had something to do with it?

If you're going to break the laws of a country then be prepared to pay the price. Simples.
I'd put the gimmigrents on a plane and drop them off in Germany

Sigh, since you won't or can barely read, I think engaging you further on anything of substance would be comiting base animal cruelty. Keep dancing to your own beat, fella!

 

[Tunney]

I'm not sure about your claims of a divide in education, almost all of the Home Counties, where education is particularly good, are edging towards euroscepticism - maybe they're the ones who feel they've been forced out of London by high levels of immigration.

Here's where my claim originated.

The home counties suffer significantly from a brain drain towards London. Those that get an education move away, those that leave school at 18 stay. I grew up in the home counties and the divide between my old school friends couldn't be clearer.

EDIT: I'm not trying to suggest that people who are educated are necessarily smarter and back EU membership for this reason. It's just that they benefit more obviously and directly from EU membership.

 

[deuse]

Sigh, since you won't or can barely read, I think engaging you further on anything of substance would be comiting base animal cruelty. Keep dancing to your own beat, fella!

Originally Posted by datalol-jack View Post
They aren't scum, and it tells you in the article, if you would just read what you post. People got fed up, protested, got tear-gassed. That's the gist of it.

I think they're scum and law breaking scum at that. Ramming a fence of a country they do not belong to is a criminal offence

They was lucky. Some countries would have shoot the lot. Yes I did read but you don't like my answer...tough.

 

[[TW]Fox]

"A crowd of migrants has burst through a barbed-wire fence on the Macedonia-Greece border using a steel pole as a battering ram"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35687257

Here we go again. Wonder where these scum come from.

They smash through barriers but they'll respect the fact we have voted to leave a political union, obviously, right?

That must be what you are saying otherwise why link to it in a thread on the EU referendum?

Also, Macedonia is not in the EU. So in reality what you've done here is demonstrate that EU status doesn't really affect whether the migrants cross your border or not...

 

[thep02]

Well hasn't the Uk (i know Sweden has) gone the whole Zero hour contract route?
Avoiding Holiday pay any kinds of sick pay, unknown working hours that give you almost zero ability to financially plan.

That's sick.. It might be lower skilled jobs but its a disgusting practice.
If leaving the EU would have anyway to outlaw those kinds of business practices even id vote for that.

Do you honestly think a UK or English government would be more likely to ban zero hour than the eu, I don't.

 

[deuse]

They smash through barriers but they'll respect the fact we have voted to leave a political union, obviously, right?

That's it where OUT. Fox says so everyone

That must be what you are saying otherwise why link to it in a thread on the EU referendum?

Also, Macedonia is not in the EU. So in reality what you've done here is demonstrate that EU status doesn't really affect whether the migrants cross your border or not...

You do know they was breaking down the Greece barriers which is in the EU?
Deuse shows fox a giant cross...back to the motors section...back I say

 

[datalol-jack]

Here's where my claim originated.

The home counties suffer significantly from a brain drain towards London. Those that get an education move away, those that leave school at 18 stay. I grew up in the home counties and the divide between my old school friends couldn't be clearer.

EDIT: I'm not trying to suggest that people who are educated are necessarily smarter and back EU membership for this reason. It's just that they benefit more obviously and directly from EU membership.

The outcomes for that demographic are mixed, but what's important to point out is that they are more likely to work in a job and live in a social circle where the EU's contribution is several links removed from them, so is less apparent to them as either a benefit or a disadvantage.

Like the meat-packer example several pages ago -- the default stance is indifference, followed by mild ambivalence, really.

They smash through barriers but they'll respect the fact we have voted to leave a political union, obviously, right?

That must be what you are saying otherwise why link to it in a thread on the EU referendum?

Also, Macedonia is not in the EU. So in reality what you've done here is demonstrate that EU status doesn't really affect whether the migrants cross your border or not...

Precisely. And the fence was indeed built by the Macedonians on the Greek border... on the Macedonian side. :\

 

[Insanties_birth]

These immigrants are getting worse, they can't even patiently wait for us to try and help them nowadays. I don't think they're evil but no tired excuses that they're coming from a 'war zone' is enough to excuse vandalism and illegal entry into a country feeding you, trying to house you and simply needing time to process the amount of people coming.

I think it's time to add a few more fences to the budget lol. Either way we don't know why tensions boiled over to be fair but they can't just invade a country willy nilly and pretend it's okay because they are fleeing another.