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So what you're basically saying is...
"If he's playing then you're not playing.. Aaaaand you want your ball back"
Right ?
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So what you're basically saying is...
"If he's playing then you're not playing.. Aaaaand you want your ball back"
Right ?
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the best move by the Gov for the IN voters was to get IDS and Gove to head the OUT campaign... shear genious
Will they transform and combine for one last ultimate attack?!
IDS does have a generally unsportsmanlike effect on people. Should have stuck to individual sports.
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Are you in the IDS fan club then? Have an autographed copy of his new book, "Mein Kampf Gegen Die Armen"?
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"The best Armed Forces of any nation".
Hmm...
Well we used to have before they were decimated in round after round of cuts. Generations of loyal service men and women have been failed by incompetence and penny pinching.
We can't legitimately claim that we're one of the best now.
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Boris is backing the exit campaign.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35626621
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35626621
So begins the debate in earnest I imagine.
Interesting. I imagined he would but was concerned that if he didn't it showed the complete lack of faith he had of the no vote winning. Boris wouldn't want to risk a guaranteed defeat as it would harm his bid to be the next PM.
Even with the endless cut backs and penny pinching, basing it on their professionalism alone I think it can still be said.
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"We can take out our anger on elected representatives in Westminster but whoever is in Government in London cannot remove or reduce VAT"
I had no Idea the UK had no control over VAT.
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This is the crux of the matter. People at present just don't know enough about how the EU really affects our daily lives to make an informed decision.
Fantastic article from Gove that. A call to arms if ever there was one.
i don't like gove, but he isn't wrong in this case.
The EU is failing and will look very different in the years to come.
The migrant issue and the ideological experiment that is the euro will split europe north to south, east to west.
I think we are better off out.
And if this government thinks they are the best then surely they are deserving of better support when they get back than what they receive currently. You can't talk up the achievements of our armed forces when you need to try and whip up some patriotism to get your own way, and then go back to forgetting them.
Well, you can, but people might notice.
I think they should be judged on output, and if they don't have the tools or personnel for the job then it's hard to make that claim.
I would like to see some fact-checking on Gove's statement that "whoever is in Government in London cannot remove or reduce VAT, cannot support a steel plant through troubled times, cannot build the houses we need where they’re needed and cannot deport all the individuals who shouldn’t be in this country", as well. I am aware of the state aid rules but I think housing is a government failure not an EU one. Happy to be proven wrong though, I just suspect it's made up.
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One thing I'm wondering is if at any time people power forced Brussels to u-turn on unpopular legislation? Not too long ago in this country, people power forced the govt to u-turn on plans to scrap child tax credits. I just wonder if that would have been possible if the EU was in charge of benefit policy across member states, which they almost certainly will be one day.
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Didn't the Scots/other fishing nations get the EU-wide driftnet ban reversed at first reading? Commission then did a u-turn on that part of their fisheries policy. It never came back, from what I can gather.
Also you can petition them online now:
https://petiport.secure.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/en/howAndWhy
Here's a funny one:
https://petiport.secure.europarl.eu...armonization-of-electrical-sockets-in-the-EU?
UK sockets under threat?
Boris: "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of Tory war".
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Is it bad to want some real news to happen so the BBC stop going mental over any Tory taking a side over the EU debate?
I don't understand how it's huge news which side Boris was going to pick? Isn't everyone allowed to make their own decision and not be forced into following the "party/PM" ?
I don't understand how it's huge news which side Boris was going to pick? Isn't everyone allowed to make their own decision and not be forced into following the "party/PM" ?
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Professionalism means dick without equipment, infrastructure and the correct degree of investment and support. I saw the decline during the 14 years I served - it's no joke.
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Caged for PM.
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Whilst we are flinging media links and political talking heads on the question of power:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35624753
A very succinct summary of one of my previous replies: there's a difference between feeling in control (or wishing for it), and having actual power to influence events. The out argument is very vague on their power guarantees -- just promising we will have more won't cut the mustard for many voters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35624753
A very succinct summary of one of my previous replies: there's a difference between feeling in control (or wishing for it), and having actual power to influence events. The out argument is very vague on their power guarantees -- just promising we will have more won't cut the mustard for many voters.
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Well that's an example of industry power getting the EU to do a u-turn, which I have no problem believing happens all the time
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