Soldato
Agreed. If OCUK votes in, there's not a chance of a No vote nationally.
Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote?
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Agreed. If OCUK votes in, there's not a chance of a No vote nationally.
Soldato
In, forever in.
The thing is whatever the vote if it really happens, can anybody see a Tory Govt. taking us out of Europe.
It just won't happen, either by ignoring an out vote which they can legally do as the referendum isn't binding or fiddling it we definitely won't leave.
It just won't happen, either by ignoring an out vote which they can legally do as the referendum isn't binding or fiddling it we definitely won't leave.
I'm a bit conflicted, I'd like to see us leave and not be shackled by the EU but at the same time the thought of the Conservatives having more power to oppress people with their sadistic austerity ideology/policies terrifies me, first thing they'll do is rewrite the human rights bill to enable themselves to be even more cruel.
I wouldn't be surprised if the months of asylum seeker coverage we've been seeing isn't designed to avoid a referendum though... Europe finds a solution to immigration, Cameron says he played a big part in it and now we don't need a vote.
I wouldn't be surprised if the months of asylum seeker coverage we've been seeing isn't designed to avoid a referendum though... Europe finds a solution to immigration, Cameron says he played a big part in it and now we don't need a vote.
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Caporegime
Following recent events, I'm out. Freedom of movement will soon move from helping the country to destroying it.
Caporegime
Couldn't just stick two fingers up and ignore it, it would be political suicide. No one would ever trust them again.
Soldato
With the recent EU crisis?
Out, for the love of god, out.
Out, for the love of god, out.
Cameron was asked that question on Sky news and he wouldn't say if the referendum result would be binding.
Soldato
The idea that us coming out of Europe would stop migrants / refugees wanting to come here, and also that France would somehow police Calais better just because we had left is completely ridiculous
Man of Honour
Indeed the recent refugee crisis from Syria has very little consequence on our EU membership.
Caporegime
Until they become EU citizens and are free to go wherever they wish.
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Leave. The idea we have to be a part of it to remain strong and relevant baffles me.
Just ask your self why would we fall apart of we left the EU and if you can answer me that without using the same old "businesses will leave" I will listen, at the moment the out campaign have a lot more pros, than the in campaign
Just ask your self why would we fall apart of we left the EU and if you can answer me that without using the same old "businesses will leave" I will listen, at the moment the out campaign have a lot more pros, than the in campaign
Prove me wrong by the end of this poll session
And what are a few hundred thousand Syrians going to do that tens of millions of eastern europeans haven't?
Soldato
A process which takes 5-10 years and is not that easy apparently (or automatic) https://fullfact.org/europe/uk_eu_asylum_policy-45165
Anyone who says they know what would happen one way or the other is a liar - its so big and complicated - Im very scepitcal of anyone strongly claiming what it would be like either way.
I would however not take the risk of upsetting our economy again (its only just starting to show signs of life again) to come out
Soldato
By then they will have some kind of life in the country they will be based and only a minority will move. As someone else mentioned there are already millions of people from rest of the EU that can come here, those that do come probably don't even add up to 1% of population of EU.
I'm immigrant myself, came to UK before we were part of EU in 2001 from Slovakia. From mine point of view there was lot more of "us" here then/ soon after joining EU than it is now. UK isn't all that great as you think it is and if you leave EU it will be even less so.
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