The F1 2014 season
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*sigh*
Cost cap - Ok, that one's fair enough. Depends what the cap is and what it's applied to. Given that the engines are in the region of $25million next year, the previously suggested $40million cap would be a touch loony.
Tyre test - Fair enough. Shame the cars are going to be pretty close to worthless for the test for Pirelli. 1/4 the torque of the V6's
Driver numbers - Doesn't really bother me that much. Used to have them, but they should be team numbers, not driver numbers imo. As it is, we could have Alonso as 3 and Raikkonen as 72. No sense there.
5 second penalties - More info needed on this one.
Double points at the last event - NO! Utterly pointless. Why not give each of the teams a Joker card to play which double any points they get at the event they play it at, and they have to play the Joker before FP1. Welcome to It's an F1 Knockout!
Cost cap - Ok, that one's fair enough. Depends what the cap is and what it's applied to. Given that the engines are in the region of $25million next year, the previously suggested $40million cap would be a touch loony.
Tyre test - Fair enough. Shame the cars are going to be pretty close to worthless for the test for Pirelli. 1/4 the torque of the V6's
Driver numbers - Doesn't really bother me that much. Used to have them, but they should be team numbers, not driver numbers imo. As it is, we could have Alonso as 3 and Raikkonen as 72. No sense there.
5 second penalties - More info needed on this one.
Double points at the last event - NO! Utterly pointless. Why not give each of the teams a Joker card to play which double any points they get at the event they play it at, and they have to play the Joker before FP1. Welcome to It's an F1 Knockout!
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Laughable.
i will watch the first few races and see how it goes, but i now have no interest if the team i support isnt doing well.
I did not do this previously
Double points for the final race may appeal to the broadcasters or whatever in terms of reducing the chances of a dead rubber, but I think it is a massively flawed concept, especially so in a sport like F1 where certain tracks may favour certain teams. Making sport more appealing/exciting is all well and good, but they shouldn't undermine the fundamentals of competition.
I seriously worry about who comes up with the points system for F1... remember when they changed the scoring to try and make a bigger gap between winning and second place, but ended up keeping the same ratio (it was like, 10 > 25 for first and 8 > 20 for second) until someone with GCSE maths alerted them to the fact it wouldn't help with that objective?
I seriously worry about who comes up with the points system for F1... remember when they changed the scoring to try and make a bigger gap between winning and second place, but ended up keeping the same ratio (it was like, 10 > 25 for first and 8 > 20 for second) until someone with GCSE maths alerted them to the fact it wouldn't help with that objective?
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One will keep watching, but with the BBC/Sky deal and the potential for more of Darling Boy's dominance, it's not guaranteed.
As with most things, it's all about the casuals, these days.
I'm waiting for Bernie to introduce a phone vote system.
As with most things, it's all about the casuals, these days.
I'm waiting for Bernie to introduce a phone vote system.
This isnt realy true.
Its just the most open area to devlopment. Teams will spend every penny they have. If they cant spend it on other areas, they will plow it all into aero. Which is exactly what they've done.
All these money saving exercises havent saved a dime, all they've done is given the devlopment department a bigger budget and as aero is the most open, almost all of it goes into that.
The FIA are just getting stupider by the day. I hope these new rules full flat on the team and are scrapped before they are even introduced. First excting thing to happen in years (the new engine rules) and they go and add more rubbish to DRS with double points and a 5 second penalty that they dont even know how to implament. Theres a reason there was a drive through and a 10second stop. Thats the only thing you can do. I can see 5seconds being added onto the end of the race. As i cant see how you can implament it within a race.
If they want a small punishment, disable kers for one lap. Allthough that could be worth more than 5seconds in 2014.
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The 5 second penalty thing, as voiced in my head by Murray Walker...
"And Hamilton is now leading Alonso by 3 seconds, which means Alonso is leading Hamilton by 2 seconds as Hamilton has a penalty for rubbing wheels with Massa. If Hamilton can increase his lead to 6 seconds he will take the lead from Alonso who is currently leading. And Hamilton makes a mistake! Alonso is now right on his tail, meaning he is 5 seconds in front. The lead could change here but the actual leader is Alonso. And Alonso overtakes Hamilton for the lead, having already been in the lead, but now Alonso is ahead of Hamilton meaning Hamilton is now 5 seconds behind Alonso, but as Kimi was only 3 seconds behind Alonso, Hamilton has been passed by Alonso and gone from 1st to 3rd in a single overtake, but actually was only 2nd to start with despite being in the lead. So the order on lap 10 is Alonso, Hamilton, Kimi, which is actually Alonso, Kimi, Hamilton. But whats this! Alonso has been given a penalty for track limits while in the battle with Hamilton meaning after overtaking Hamilton for 1st Alonso is now 3rd. Hamilton in 2nd is the leader while Kimi in 3rd is now ahead of Alonso who is leading."
"And Hamilton is now leading Alonso by 3 seconds, which means Alonso is leading Hamilton by 2 seconds as Hamilton has a penalty for rubbing wheels with Massa. If Hamilton can increase his lead to 6 seconds he will take the lead from Alonso who is currently leading. And Hamilton makes a mistake! Alonso is now right on his tail, meaning he is 5 seconds in front. The lead could change here but the actual leader is Alonso. And Alonso overtakes Hamilton for the lead, having already been in the lead, but now Alonso is ahead of Hamilton meaning Hamilton is now 5 seconds behind Alonso, but as Kimi was only 3 seconds behind Alonso, Hamilton has been passed by Alonso and gone from 1st to 3rd in a single overtake, but actually was only 2nd to start with despite being in the lead. So the order on lap 10 is Alonso, Hamilton, Kimi, which is actually Alonso, Kimi, Hamilton. But whats this! Alonso has been given a penalty for track limits while in the battle with Hamilton meaning after overtaking Hamilton for 1st Alonso is now 3rd. Hamilton in 2nd is the leader while Kimi in 3rd is now ahead of Alonso who is leading."
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Have they said how the 5 second penalty will be introduced, as I hope (if time allows) they just ask the driver to lift off the throttle and move back 5 seconds on a straight. They've got delta times on their dash, so surely it can't be too hard to implement? The issue is the cars aren't all going at the same speed, but if it's done from the start/finish line timing beacon it should be easy enough to work out.
I wonder if anyone will take 13, I see no one did this year and Max Chilton was 23. Looks like Force India were in line for 13 this year, maybe Paul di Resta would have had more luck 
Double points seems senseless, maybe they should extend points winning scores to 20th at least the fight at the back might have been more interesting. All we got at the back this year was Max trying to finish the race. If they want to stop Vettel running away with it maybe close the gap in points between 1st and 2nd, or a success ballast as in Touring cars.
Andi.
Double points seems senseless, maybe they should extend points winning scores to 20th at least the fight at the back might have been more interesting. All we got at the back this year was Max trying to finish the race. If they want to stop Vettel running away with it maybe close the gap in points between 1st and 2nd, or a success ballast as in Touring cars.
Andi.
I wonder if anyone will take 13, I see no one did this year and Max Chilton was 23. Looks like Force India were in line for 13 this year, maybe Paul di Resta would have had more luck
F1 has not had a number 13 since they put the rule in for numbers to be defined by championship position. The team that finish 6th are 11 and 12, and the team that finish 7th are 14 and 15.
Surely the 5 second penalty would be done the same as the 10 second penalty, as part of a drive through? They've just added a pointless extra level of penalty between drive through and 10 second for all those penalties they never bother to give out during the race anyway.
Thats not how I read it. I've read it as a 5 second time penalty, rather than a 5 second stop go (which is realistically a ~25 second penalty), based on them siting it as being a penalty for minor infringements, and not yet knowing how it will be implemented.