The F1 2014 season

Indy500 said:
He and Grosjean took 3-4 seasons to achieve that. Hulkenberg and Hamilton did it in their debut year.
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That doesn't mean much, given that Hulk, Maldonado and Grosjean were all in GP2 at the same time. Maldonado also broke his collarbone and missed the last four rounds of his rookie season, having previously posted good results including a win at Monaco.
 
JeditOjanen said:
That doesn't mean much, given that Hulk, Maldonado and Grosjean were all in GP2 at the same time. Maldonado also broke his collarbone and missed the last four rounds of his rookie season, having previously posted good results including a win at Monaco.
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It's difficult to quantify (but quite fun! :p) as obviously the rest of the field matters a lot (and team does make some difference) but as for all of the GP2 winners and which season they won it looks like...

2005- Nico Rosberg (ART Grand Prix) 1st Season.

2006- Lewis Hamilton (ART Grand Prix) 1st Season.

2007- Timo Glock (iSport International) 2nd Season.

2008- Giorgio Pantano (Racing Engineering) 4th Season.

2009- Nico Hülkenberg (ART Grand Prix) 1st Season.

2010- Pastor Maldonado (Rapax) 4th Season (3rd Full season).

2011- Romain Grosjean (DAMS) 4th Season (2nd Full season).

2012- Davide Valsecchi (DAMS) 5th (!) Season.

2013- Fabio Leimer (Racing Engineering) 4th Season.


Looking at that it's easy to see why some drivers are overlooked, if they are 2-3 seasons into a racing series and battling rookies in their 1st season it doesn't look all that spectacular when they (eventually) win it.
 
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Ignoring Pantano, you can see quite clearly that the issues hit GP2 as soon as all the big money left F1 (and the global economy in general).

Theres a clear shift to seats in motorsport being based on being rich over being good.
 
Skeeter said:
Theres a clear shift to seats in motorsport being based on being rich over being good.
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To be honest this has always been the case. If you look back to the late 90s for example most of the back of the grid were pay drivers.

The difference now is that front/midfield teams are also lowering themselves to giving the likes of giving Maldonado a drive.
 
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Watch a real 2014 F1 chassis crash test

A very rare behind the scenes look at Formula 1 crash testing.

Every new F1 chassis needs to pass these two tests as part of the homologation process. Now you can see the process for yourselves...

Caterham F1 Team

 
Oh christ, I'd forgotten that stupid penalty points system was in discussion too.

So with that, plus new 5 second penalties, every race is just going to be decided by the stewards.
 
Skeeter said:
Oh christ, I'd forgotten that stupid penalty points system was in discussion too.

So with that, plus new 5 second penalties, every race is just going to be decided by the stewards.
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We don't even know how the 5 second penalty is going to be enforced yet, but I can't see a negative to the penalty points system - isn't it just a written rule for what was an unwritten rule previously? **** up enough and you'll get punished, only this time it's over 12 months. Chances are it'll rarely get used - even Maldonado and Grosjean at their worst would have struggled to trigger it.

Everyone her seems very, very negative towards the 2014 season. Without wanting to sound pretentious (genuinely, but struggling to find an way to say that without coming across as a ****), I've been watching F1 continuously since 1989, and while 2013 ended as a bit of a damp squib (for the lead), I'm genuinely excited about 2014. It's a major change, and not just in bendy carbon bits, and while Vettel may well still end up with the trophy, with so many unknowns for the first time since 1988, I'm really looking forward to it.
 
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I worked out how the points system would have worked in the 2012 season had it been in place. Without going back and finding it, I think the outcome was that Schumacher would have missed 2 races, Hamilton would have missed 1, Maldonado would have been banned for the first race of 2013, and Grosjean would have come close, but just avoided a ban.

The points system is very specific about when they are applied, so its easy to gauge how it would be applied. My issue with it is the cumulation of points, meaning massive consiquences can be the result of a minor infringement. Imagine if the title was decided because 1 driver got banned from the final race because they got stuck in traffic and missed the driver briefing?
 
seeing as only 4 seats remain open (1 @ Sauber, 1 @ Marussia and 2 @ Caterham), what are your predictions?

here are my guesses

Sauber will keep Gutierez
Marussia keep Chilton and his cash unless Razia has been saving in his piggy bank
Caterham i'll take a stab and say Da Costa and Davide Valsechi

my 2 cents
 
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