The F1 2014 season

But you know what this means, don't you...

Nu nu...

Nu nu...

Nu nu, nu nu.... nu nu, nu nu...

Nu nu, MALDONADO (@ Lotus)!

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Didn't think I'd see Sutil leaving there. Nice line up.

Yea reports he is taking his sponsorship to Sauber... How he has sponsorship to use as bartering and Hulkenberg doesn't is a mystery to me!

But you know what this means, don't you...

Nu nu...

Nu nu...

Nu nu, nu nu.... nu nu, nu nu...

Nu nu, MALDONADO (@ Lotus)!

:(

Yea it's not the best outcome at all, that said this whole Quantum/Lotus debacle has killed any enthusiasm for that move... Horrible as it is to say if Maldonado does go there I hope either their car is worse than the FI or Grosjean schools him :p
 
Whilst I think there is some meat to the Sutil/Sauber rumour, I think people are reading faaaaaar to much into Sutils GF having a drink at a table outside Sauber.

People go all over the place to chat and eat and drink.

I would wonder where they are getting the money for him from though, if they aren't running Siroktin?
 
Whilst I think there is some meat to the Sutil/Sauber rumour, I think people are reading faaaaaar to much into Sutils GF having a drink at a table outside Sauber.

People go all over the place to chat and eat and drink.

I would wonder where they are getting the money for him from though, if they aren't running Siroktin?

Sirotkin as reserve with confirmed seat for 2015, and Guiterrez.
 
My wish for next year is for Mercedes, Mclaren, RB and Ferrari to all be competing hard at the top end, all drivers sharing wins and making a very close and exciting season. Ultimately I want Lewis to win, but I want him to have to fight to the very end to do so.

Please let it happen!
 
Why do you consider increasing power output to be the only possible avenue for development? :confused:

Whatts coonfusing.
Other industries wont care if theres some loop hole in f1. They care about energy recovery, f1 arent going to recover more energy than they need. As it has downsides (like unbalancing the cars etc).

So in its current and 2014 specs, it insnt relevent outside of f1 as all they can devlop will be loopholes which are only applicable to f1, not other industries.

Where if it was derestricted, they would try harnessing as muc h as possibel to use, and it very much would be relevent to several other industries.
 
Whatts coonfusing.

Everything you type... :p

Other industries wont care if theres some loop hole in f1. They care about energy recovery, f1 arent going to recover more energy than they need. As it has downsides (like unbalancing the cars etc).

So in its current and 2014 specs, it insnt relevent outside of f1 as all they can devlop will be loopholes which are only applicable to f1, not other industries.

Where if it was derestricted, they would try harnessing as muc h as possibel to use, and it very much would be relevent to several other industries.

I don't see why you think the limits on power output locks it down? Every electric car is going to have a limit on the power of the electric motors it uses and the size of the batteries they run. That doesn't mean development is stifled? Sure they can't keep increasing the power output of the motors or fit bigger batteries, but thats not where the development areas are for this sort of thing.

F1 should become a good proving ground for new motor technology, new battery technology, new ways to use the recovered power.

In 'traditional' terms the ERS regulations for F1 are effectively the same as a petrol engine specification saying "you can build a 500bhp engine that uses 5l of fuel a lap, off you go". And I hardly think you would say that had no development opportunities, would you?!
 
Everything you type... :p



I don't see why you think the limits on power output locks it down? Every electric car is going to have a limit on the power of the electric motors it uses and the size of the batteries they run. That doesn't mean development is stifled? Sure they can't keep increasing the power output of the motors or fit bigger batteries, but thats not where the development areas are for this sort of thing.
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But electric cars dont have limits per lap etc. so the more they gather the better.

In f1 under durrent rules, its not more they gather the better, its worse. Once you hit the usable limit, then it beocmes a hinderence. This is the issue.

Other industries want to gather as much energy as possible.
In f1 you want to gather the maximum you can use and no more. Making it irrelevent.
And the only way to make f1 gather as much energy as possible is to increase the power outputted.

Lol the ERS is nothing at all like engine. The engine they could create what ever they wanted. Ers they cant, as there's a maximum stored in the battery at any one point and a maximum output per lap. So not they cant just do what ever they want.there was simply no meed to limit the ers bit as it is limited by the other regs anyway. There is nothing unlimited about it.
 
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Lol the ERS is nothing at all like engine. The engine they could create what ever they wanted. Ers they cant, as there's a maximum stored in the battery at any one point and a maximum output per lap

How is that nothing like it?

Maximum energy stored in a battery or maximum amount of energy output over a lap is the same as a maximum fuel allowance and fuel flow/usage restrictions. And maximum power output of an electric motor is the same as limiting the power of a petrol engine?
 
How is that nothing like it?

Maximum energy stored in a battery or maximum amount of energy output over a lap is the same as a maximum fuel allowance and fuel flow/usage restrictions. And maximum power output of an electric motor is the same as limiting the power of a petrol engine?

Of course its not.
Maximum fuel usage can produce what ever they want.

Maximum output, is the opposite, it restricts what you can produce.

Where if you say take EV as one of the other markets, unlike f1 you will never gather as much energy as you use, there is no upper limit on energy recover. Where in f1 there is. As soon as they hit that limit (which is meant to be out the box) they will not develop to gather more energy. They cant, they cant store, they cant do anything with it, as well as usually the more you recover the bigger the downside in other areas, ie weight, car balance, complexity/reliability, increased cooling need which would affect aero etc.
 
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