The Falklands thread

If they had them on the Islands in 1982 in large numbers, there would have likely been a different out come. They may be old if not comical, but they are still dangerous and would have needed dealing with.

They did have Pucaras on Pebble Island, Goose Green and Stanley, I doubt Spitfires would have been much more use than them
 
Guys, I was in Buenos Aires last month. THe place really is pretty shocking, they have NO money over there, most places do not accept credit cards, there is rubbish on the streets and the whole places looks in total disrepair. I can't imagine they could mount any kind of attack on the Falkland. Christina is VERY unpopular there right now!
 
Is that the battlefield intro music? :D Does look fun driving around on buggies all day :D

It doesn't look anywhere near as grim as the Falkland Islands actually are, I'm not in any hurry to go back let's put it that way.

I can not believe they used the Battlefield 3 music on an actual armed forces recruitment video. The mind boggles.
 
Falklands debate is stupid, it was never really Argentina's either.

It was uninhabited, first built upon by the Dutch, then the French, English, Spanish, then finally we built a permanent settlement.

The utter nerve of a nation built entirely off colonialism on land stolen from the native south Americans to accuse us of being colonialistic (that a word?) on the matter of the Falklands (which had no inhabitants) is utterly absurd.

The relative proximity is irrelevant, Spain is almost as far away from the Falklands as we are - the fact Argentina is closer means absolutely nothing, by the same logic we should claim Argentina due to it's proximity to the Falklands :D.
 
Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?
 
Nobody else would get involved over it. Even if Argentina has oil deals with China they won't get involved to the degree required to take control of the islands in the first place.
 
Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?

that simply wouldn't happen
 
Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?

Have you heard of NATO? I think the Russians and Chinese have and there's no way they'd be seen to be actively encouraging an invasion of British territory.
 
Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?

Rubbish. Do you think China and Russia would really start a war with us over some windy rock that's even further away from them than it is to us?

Not to mention the fact the UK are much more useful as an ally to those two countries than an enemy. The amount of oil there would not be worth anywhere near the amount both countries would lose in terms of trade if they launched a war with us (Just think how much stuff the UK buys from China for example).

An even if the worst came to the worst and they did step in, what's to stop the UK offering them the same deal over the oil anyway.
 
Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?

The only scenario where China would start a war over oil is if we stopped selling oil to them similar to US v Japan in the 40's. At this time China relies on the West to buy everything they produce and we need what they produce. War over a commodity makes no sense.
 
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Some people believe the Russians or Chinese will have struck a deal with Argentina re the oil there, so any potential war that could happen may be backed in Argentina's favor by the Russians and/or the Chinese. That'd mean we'd loose the war, or would the US and other countries help the UK and would it then turn into WW3?

not even remotely worth it - its a tiny amount of oil in the grand scheme of things.
 
can you imagine what the fight would be like in its current climate, the british army has come on leaps and bounds since 1982. Amount of firepower per squad alone has drastically increased

Nearly all of the frontline units are also battle hardened from 10 years fighting in Afghanistan.
 
Not really. I can't image what situation would see us using nuclear weapons against Argentina. We have Trident to stop people nuking us, and to give us some kind of strategic offensive ability in some sort of disaster situation.

Riiiigggghhhttt cos using nuclear weapons in defence of a tinpot little colony is really proportionate and of course wont end up in total expulsion and sanctions from the UN :rolleyes:

No, Trident is out nuclear deterrent.

Nope, it is part of the reason we spent quite a bit of our money on TLAM though, was hard to attack mainland Argentina in 1982, not now it isn't.

cos shooting nuclear missiles in defence of a crappy island obliterating south America making it uninhabitable for 100s of years really is the best answer you have? :rolleyes:

****ing muppets in this thread want another falklands war it seems, cos afghan went oh so well

Relax people. My original Trident comment was a joke. I was not seriously suggesting we nuke Argentina because they wrote us a slightly shirty letter.
 
Allow me to draft Prime Minister Dishface's reply;


"My Dearest Cristina,

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnNO! >:-(

Yours, Dishface."


Or perhaps wipe his arse on their letter, then mark "return to sender" on the envelope.
 
I'm a bit annoyed with the Sun. It's **** all to do with them and just makes us look as petty and stupid as the Argies.
 
I'm a bit annoyed with the Sun. It's **** all to do with them and just makes us look as petty and stupid as the Argies.

It doesn't make Britain look as petty as them at all. Argentina's open letter was written by their president, who used Argentine tax payer's money to put an ad in a national British Newspaper.

'Our' letter was written by a tabloid newspaper and paid for with private money.

The former is representing the opinion of the Argentine government and by extension the country itself. The latter is an opinion piece written by a private company that have no authority to speak for Britain.

When David Cameron starts using tax payer's money to send silly letters to other world leaders via their national press we'll be stooping to their level.
 
It doesn't make Britain look as petty as them at all. Argentina's open letter was written by their president, who used Argentine tax payer's money to put an ad in a national British Newspaper.

'Our' letter was written by a tabloid newspaper and paid for with private money.

The former is representing the opinion of the Argentine government and by extension the country itself. The latter is an opinion piece written by a private company that have no authority to speak for Britain.

When David Cameron starts using tax payer's money to send silly letters to other world leaders via their national press we'll be stooping to their level.
While I do agree entirely, let's not forget that "The Scum" likes to pretend to be the voice of the people.

*** for tat childish remarks only strengthen the misplaced resolved the Argentinian people (of those who wish to take the Falklands).

On a side note,

Let's not forget, some of the intellectuals of the nation also disagree with there government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17148157

"A group of Argentine intellectuals has challenged the government's ambition to take control of the Falkland Islands from the British.

The 17 writers urged the government to recognise the right of the islanders to decide their own future.

They also say Argentina's demand for negotiations with the UK contradicts its insistence on sovereignty"
 
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