The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

[deuse]

hehe yeh i saw this, i think its pretty cool
i didnt look good tho is it for the backplate too or just the part that covers the pump?
....backplate would be more important to a lot of people

I bet you could 3D print better pump parts

 

[Bonjour]

Any of you Fury owners got a 3D printer? AMD are letting you Personalize your card.

https://community.amd.com/docs/DOC-1281?hootPostID=4bf2f3ab63386e824026a070320d4a3f

A friend has asked me to make one for him, but I know people are very fussy so no

Brilliant. I may try to sneak one out using work's 3D printer.

I say 'sneak'. It'll probably take about 12 hours to print.

 

[Mauller]

Good job Greg. More investigating is required, as the FX looks much better than the TX which looks washed out in comparison.

How about just taking screen shots standing in identical places? Would be quicker also.

Maybe boom and kaps should try it out also, maybe something Greg is doing without realising is causing the difference in quality.

It would be good if this could be checked. But if people are going to do it, motion blur needs to be disabled. Maybe people could test at the same first corner Greg turns in his video.

 

[Mei]

I bet you could 3D better pump parts

lolz u went there!
srsly tho i do think its a cool idea
i hope more cards start to do it
i like a bit of arts and crafts in my modding

 

[Ayahuasca]

Will be good to see some more games IQ tested between the two cards, if there really is a noticeable difference on multiple games the story will probably blow up and be checked out by some review sites. Ones that aren't scared of nVidia pulling the plug on them.

 

[Woodsta888]

Can't ask more for a thread where enthusiasts actually own both the Fury X AND a Titan X for comparison. Eseentially a 'live' reveiw where ideas and issues are discussed and trialled. I'm more informed from this thread than all the commercial reviews put together. Awesome.

 

[Mauller]

Would be good if it does. Things like this need checking and highlighting every now and then. Since one company or the other may try reducing IQ gradually to show better performance since Review sites tend to only check FPS. Its the same as review sites checking frame times now. They should start reviewing IQ again with each card release.

 

[Mtom]

Well i have to say i'm not a sharp eyed one, who picks on everything, but in the last BF video the difference is clearly standing out in IQ on the Furys favor.

At the start blurred road and lines on the road on TX

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Curb and road looks washed/blurred on TX

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Again road surface and signs on the road are crappy looking

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Line on the road seems to wash away a few meters from viewpoint while on FX it runs to the distance

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Building in the back are much sharper on FX although it is further back viewpoint

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Blue roadsign is sharp on the FX a blurred mess on TX

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I do not play BF so i'm not a pro, but those caught my eye in the video.

Thanks for the effort Gregster, those are great comparisons.

 

[chroniclard]

Not entirely convinced on this IQ thing but it does look that way.

 

[Mauller]

Well i have to say i'm not a sharp eyed one, who picks on everything, but in the last BF video the difference is clearly standing out in IQ on the Furys favor.

Curb and road looks washed/blurred on TX

Spoiler

The line that runs along the side of the road also starts to blur after a metre or two on the TX. while it is sharp and defined into the distance on the FX

 

[40Four]

Good job Greg. More investigating is required, as the FX looks much better than the TX which looks washed out in comparison.

How about just taking screen shots standing in identical places? Would be quicker also.

Maybe boom and kaps should try it out also, maybe something Greg is doing without realising is causing the difference in quality.

Just because one is brighter does not mean the other is washed out. Brighter isn't always better, and i personally don't see how you can judge image quality by watching a few low res videos and looking at equally low res and also blown up stills taken from a low res video.

I said before you need to render the exact same images and run the scenes exactly the same with both cards at default. Then you need to find someone who knows what they are doing to analyze them.

I am in no way claiming to be an expert but it is obvious to me that the material being used here is in no way good enough to judge image quality. Just my honest opinion and no offence meant to anyone, i have been a long time reader of this site and have had many lol moments during that time and hope they continue.

 

[Locky]

So what we getting at is Nvidia cheating again by dumbing down IQ to get headline FPS over the Fury?

OR just a driver bug?

 

[Bonjour]

Just because one is brighter does not mean the other is washed out. Brighter isn't always better, and i personally don't see how you can judge image quality by watching a few low res videos and looking at equally low res and also blown up stills taken from a low res video.

I said before you need to render the exact same images and run the scenes exactly the same with both cards at default. Then you need to find someone who knows what they are doing to analyze them.

I am in no way claiming to be an expert but it is obvious to me that the material being used here is in no way good enough to judge image quality. Just my honest opinion and no offence meant to anyone, i have been a long time reader of this site and have had many lol moments during that time and hope they continue.

You need someone who knows what they're doing to analyse them?

 

[Mtom]

So what we getting at is Nvidia cheating again by dumbing down IQ to get headline FPS over the Fury?

OR just a driver bug?

Since its just one game we observed i wouldn't say anything.

 

[Dygaza]

I can.


Because it's no longer a consideration in drivers ergo it's not been optimised for Mantle on Fiji

Also shouldn't battlefied be patched to take advantage of fury aswell?

 

[Mauller]

Just because one is brighter does not mean the other is washed out. Brighter isn't always better, and i personally don't see how you can judge image quality by watching a few low res videos and looking at equally low res and also blown up stills taken from a low res video.

He used the same recording equipment and quality for both videos. If the source being recorded was displaying the same information then the videos should look identical. Which they do not. There are clear visual differences in quality between the two. Even from the start where Greg is not moving and video quality is at its best.

The easiest to spot being the lines in the road being blurred and undefined on the TX. while being sharp and clear into the distance on the FX.


I found a little snippet from last year. Someone comparing the IQ of the GTX285 to the GTX770. http://www.bsimracing.com/nvidia-image-quality-lower-on-newer-cards/ So maybe it is not something new after all. Just that no one has done this kind of comparison in a while to point it out.

 

[mmj_uk]

Well i have to say i'm not a sharp eyed one, who picks on everything, but in the last BF video the difference is clearly standing out in IQ on the Furys favor.

At the start blurred road and lines on the road on TX

Spoiler

Curb and road looks washed/blurred on TX

Spoiler

Again road surface and signs on the road are crappy looking

Spoiler

Line on the road seems to wash away a few meters from viewpoint while on FX it runs to the distance

Spoiler

Building in the back are much sharper on FX although it is further back viewpoint

Spoiler

Blue roadsign is sharp on the FX a blurred mess on TX

Spoiler

I do not play BF so i'm not a pro, but those caught my eye in the video.

Thanks for the effort Gregster, those are great comparisons.

It's just a difference in gamma from what I can see, Fury X colour levels are darker giving the impression of higher contrast, it's probably an issue with how the images are being captured unless AMD are using gamma tweaks like MS do on Xbox to make contrast appear higher (Google Xbox black crush). In essence, you get less of a gradiant in grey colours because they just get crushed into being black. However, my guess would be that this is not what is happening and it's just a capture issue.

 

[Gregster]

Well debate that vid as much as you like, but having watched it with less tired eyes, they both looked good to me.

On a very very enjoyable note, I now have 120Hz at 1440P working wooot

 

[40Four]

He used the same recording equipment and quality for both videos. If the source being recorded was displaying the same information then the videos should look identical. Which they do not. There are clear visual differences in quality between the two. Even from the start where Greg is not moving and video quality is at its best.

The easiest to spot being the lines in the road being blurred and undefined on the TX. while being sharp and clear into the distance on the FX.

You are missing the point though. They are not the exact same scene being run on each card, they are as near as he could possibly get using the same scene in whatever game it was, which can change how things look greatly. You can see in the still that the character is not in the same place so it's therefore not the same image and you can't make any comparison only a preference (like with everything) to which you prefer. Hope that makes sense.

 

[David Bisset]

Congratulations Gregster