The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

[Dicehunter]

So you can tell without looking what temp your card is running at?
Maybe there are quieter cards than your 290? (I seem to recall the MSI 290 Gaming editions weren't even close to being the best or coolest 3rd party 290 were they?)
Noise will vary between cards, so ignoring the coler noise you're telling me you can tell the temperature your card is running at?

Rumour has it he has a built in thermal sensor in his frontal lobe, Others say, HE IS THE SENSOR !

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Yes I can just be sitting close to the PC.. before my exhaust fan used to push crazy amount hot air now its just warm air. I can also feel the difference around me! It was one reason when I replaced this cooler I was super happy! Its also made me want to have water cooling GPUs from now on bought like this or do it myself.
It is the same GPU only cooler taken off and replaced with Corsair G10.

But the card is still outputting the same amount of heat, it's not running cooler it's just being cooled better. In fact the new cooler should be moving more hot air than the old one (as that wasn't shifting it from the GPU) so you should be able to feel more heat than before.

 

[shankly1985]

But the card is still outputting the same amount of heat, it's not running cooler it's just being cooled better. In fact the new cooler should be moving more hot air than the old one (as that wasn't shifting it from the GPU) so you should be able to feel more heat than before.

Well I can only tell you what am experiencing from stock to water cooling. Nothing else has changed.

 

[Orangey]

how you walk down a high street and some one trips over their own toes and you cringe for them?

I enjoy seeing people tripping over uneven pavement tiles... almost as good as the bus-runners who pretend not to care after it speeds off.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Well I can only tell you what am experiencing from stock to water cooling. Nothing else has changed.

You do make the point though, you could add an AIO cooler to those 85ºC graphics cards but 5 fps is 5 fps.

 

[Raviolay]

Well I have been waiting for this card to turn up for over a month on pre-order, if it turns out to have issues with it, I will be returning it for a refund. If that transpires is anyone interested in a BenQ XL2730Z (with updated firmware), I will go back to team green.

 

[eyetrip]

BS let me tell you.. Why because I have first hand experience with my 290 gaming edition stock hitting 85c vs water cooled hitting 50-60c and I noticed the difference right away..
From sitting where I am with case next to me it's much, much cooler. Another thing I noticed was just how much quieter and cooler my overall system is and funny enough I do seem to get better performance also.

Wait, what?

Watercooling lowers power consumption of cards? What magic is that?

As that is the only way a card will output less heat. Whether air or water cooling, a card puts out the same heat.

So if a room warms up with air cooling, it will warm up with water cooling.

With that fps monitor showing you your card itself it getting cooled quicker, there is no way you will notice a difference.

Unless your PC set up in a way that it is exhausting hot air directly onto you in one scenarios, and not in another.

So, anyway, doesn't seem to be much talk about the actual cards going on in here...

 

[Deleted User 234324]

Starting to get the same for me raviolay. A nth waiting and still no idea when the card will show up. Also bought an Acer predator freesync for it which will likely go back if I go green.

 

[Ash0787]

Watercooling does actually lower the power draw but I dont think its a great amount, maybe 20% maximum ?

I doubt you would notice the difference unless its a blower fan pointed towards you, I guess in theory though if the air is leaving the heatsinks at a higher temperature it might reach you higher but I would think that it would balance out with the surrounding air within a metres distance, not sure exactly.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Thermal dynamics 101 required here by the looks of it.

 

[Mtom]

Wait, what?

Watercooling lowers power consumption of cards? What magic is that?

As that is the only way a card will output less heat. Whether air or water cooling, a card puts out the same heat.

So if a room warms up with air cooling, it will warm up with water cooling.

With that fps monitor showing you your card itself it getting cooled quicker, there is no way you will notice a difference.

Unless your PC set up in a way that it is exhausting hot air directly onto you in one scenarios, and not in another.

So, anyway, doesn't seem to be much talk about the actual cards going on in here...

For the record it does yes. Less heat, less leakage, less power consumption. My friend watercooled his 290x matrix, and the power consumption went down by like 20w or so.

 

[Silent_Scone]

If you want an example of a card that has a clarion example of power draw increase with temperature, then Fermi would give you ample proof. However these days, these things won't be as profound. That's slightly different then saying you're noticing the difference when sat next to it, when the temperatures are within 15 to 20 Celsius of each other. The difference in energy would be difficult to notice, what Shankly was describing was the fact that this thermal energy is being dissipated over a wider area, i.e out through the radiator. Rather than blowing hot air directly out of the back of the card.

 

[eyetrip]

For the record it does yes. Less heat, less leakage, less power consumption. My friend watercooled his 290x matrix, and the power consumption went down by like 20w or so.

Actually, that makes sense, I think. I will consider myself corrected on that point

 

[andybird123]

Actually, that makes sense, I think. I will consider myself corrected on that point

20w isn't enough to make a difference to room temperature either way though, lol

 

[Razor Time]

You also have to account for the power of the pump. Normally around 18w.

 

[ALXAndy]

Eh?

If a set of electrical components use a set amount of electricity then cooling them won't make them use less. That would break the laws of physics.

The reason the GTX 580 was so much better than the 480 was low leakage transistors and revised power phases using better quality components.

Yes, you can dissipate the heat but the fact is it is still creating that heat to begin with and thus, power is being wasted. Take the water cooler off it will be straight back to its old tricks.

 

[Meladath]

Eh?

If a set of electrical components use a set amount of electricity then cooling them won't make them use less. That would break the laws of physics.

Actually it obeys the laws of physics. When components run cooler there is less leakage, causing less wasted energy meaning less energy required to operate the components. I am not a physicist or an electronic engineer, but a quick google will tell you this.

 

[ALXAndy]

Actually it obeys the laws of physics. When components run cooler there is less leakage, causing less wasted energy meaning less energy required to operate the components. I am not a physicist or an electronic engineer, but a quick google will tell you this.

Cooling does not make something more power efficient. It makes something more cooling efficient, more heat efficient.

Then of course there's the irony. The water cooling kit uses even more power.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Eh?

If a set of electrical components use a set amount of electricity then cooling them won't make them use less. That would break the laws of physics.

The reason the GTX 580 was so much better than the 480 was low leakage transistors and revised power phases using better quality components.

Yes, you can dissipate the heat but the fact is it is still creating that heat to begin with and thus, power is being wasted. Take the water cooler off it will be straight back to its old tricks.

It's the current leakage at higher temperatures that results in an increase in the power consumed, but it is typically fractional. This has no bearing on how the heat this generates is being dissipated, which is what was originally being inferred on the previous page

 

[muziqaz]

What's the power consumption difference between fan spinning at 900rpm and managing to cool off GPU fully loaded, and a same fan blasting at 3000rpm trying to cool off the same fully loaded GPU?
Then take several case fans which have to spin faster in order to circulate more air and then CPU heats up because of hot GPU, and CPU has spinning fans which now spin faster to keep up with heat.

Unrelated question:
I wonder how can 300W GPU can be cooled to 50C load with single rad AIO, while 200W CPU (OCed) needs 2-3 fan rad AIO to keep it under 75C?