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The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread
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Dicehunter, this is exactly what I was thinking this morning. Thing is Fury x is trading blows with 980ti and titan x. So if you have well doing nvidia and struggling AMD with same performing products, why not support AMD? Since couple of frame here or there will not break anyones e-penises, and knowing AMD products maturing over time to great products it is safe to assume that fury x will get much better over time and by the time we get 1st dx12 games, we will have a powerhouse on our hands.
There is so much ridicule and hate coming towards AMD, yet no one understands that if AMD goes under, we are seriously screwed as a gaming community. If AMD had something remotely close to 5930k, I would be sitting with that one as well, but at the moment race for cpu crown is nowhere near as close as race for gpu crown, thus people choosing intel.
Though I do have 8350 sitting doing nothing, but I would rather have it in my primary system if it was stronger. I have so many hopes for Zen to close the gap with Intel. Not beat it but close the gap, so I could again use AMD cpu for the main system.
There is so much ridicule and hate coming towards AMD, yet no one understands that if AMD goes under, we are seriously screwed as a gaming community. If AMD had something remotely close to 5930k, I would be sitting with that one as well, but at the moment race for cpu crown is nowhere near as close as race for gpu crown, thus people choosing intel.
Though I do have 8350 sitting doing nothing, but I would rather have it in my primary system if it was stronger. I have so many hopes for Zen to close the gap with Intel. Not beat it but close the gap, so I could again use AMD cpu for the main system.
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So many always talk about supporting AMD but never actually do, Just hot air vacating their mouthes so I thought I'd start to support them
I had the same attitude, shame AMD can't produce enough of them and OcUK are charging a premium on what there is.
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We appreciate your support!
Hope you enjoy the card, it sure does run cool.
I will, I'll post pics when it arrives tomorrow
Thanks bud
You might be interested in the latest info from AMD's Zen then.
This is only on the APU side but it sounds godly.
A 32 core APU, Yes you read correctly, 32 Zen cores, With 32GB of HBM 2.0 and a Greenland GPU -
http://wccftech.com/amd-exascale-heterogeneous-processor-ehp-apu-32-zen-cores-hbm2/
Won't be out until mid 2017 though.
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YAY! 
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Wow, so Zen comes with ram included !
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That's not for consumer use - that will be extremely expensive and will likely never be available for regular consumers/enthusiasts.
Zen for us will be 8 core CPU's.
It does for workstations and super computers. All AMD need now is good software stack coming with them. Look at HSA, openCL features in current APUs, and look how many of them are being used
For desktop I am more interested in something 5930k like decent amount of cores which are strong. I don't need 16 cores cpu, when software only uses 3 of them
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that chip is aimed at the HPC market, so expect it to be several thousand dollars a piece
edit; damn you have to be quick around here
edit; damn you have to be quick around here
yes, but imagine next gen AMD GPU core based APU with HBM under the package. Drop core count to 8, and you have decent gaming APU. Current APUs would be godly if they had HBM like memory subsystem next to them.
So imagine next gen cpu core with next gen gpu core with hbm2 bandwidth. Iris Pro who? 
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Would seem that my GTAV issues are down a mixture of crossfire/Drivers/GTAV
Disabling one card stops the huge fps drop to 30fps after a short while, but even with one card my fps isn't anywhere near what they were like on win8 at the same settings.
Disabling one card stops the huge fps drop to 30fps after a short while, but even with one card my fps isn't anywhere near what they were like on win8 at the same settings.
Interposers are key to AMD's strategy going forward, that's why Fiji uses HBM. If you're going to spend all that money developing something you need to productise it. But what they really want to do is somehow fit CPU/GPU/universal mem on one package. I wonder how parallelism and multi-GPU will work in the future, maybe it'll be optical and so fast along the interconnect that multi-socket can work as one virtual APU... crazy to think about what's possible in just a few years.
Most likely windows 10 issue on its own. Could you report this issue to amd driver feedback page? I am sure with GTA V being high profile game, they will look into it as soon as possible.
I know it is not that simple, but if they managed to work out HBM as some sort of L4 cache for APU and VRAM for APU, they would ease of crosschat between gpu and cpu and system memory by a lot. I think that's what one of the bullet points of HSA is.
I am not much qualified to talk about it in more detail, but at least that's how I understand it.
One thing for sure, HBM is much more than simple VRAM for AMD. And they were right to bring it with fiji. Learn as much as you can from it, learn to build your chips around it, and next year next gen GPU will be easy job to release, since AMD will have enough experience about HBM. This is what nvidians do not understand. Fiji is just a learning chip for AMD. AMD chose to use HBM not only because it let them be competitive, but because AMD is looking to next year and HBM 2. Now I will be well surprised if nvidia manages to bring next gen core with next gen memory with next gen process tech in one package on time, without any problems and decent quantities. Well surprised.
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My order still says in the warehouse queue even though I got the last one.
It's either been delayed by a day as has nigh on every expensive order of mine lately or there was a glitch in the system and it was actually already out of stock.
It's either been delayed by a day as has nigh on every expensive order of mine lately or there was a glitch in the system and it was actually already out of stock.
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AMD aren't doing any of the HBM work themselves, all the actual construction work is done by Hynix, who will also be doing the work for Nvidia... If hynix don't have the specs and final packaging worked out for nvidia then they don't have it worked out for AMD either.
AMD doing all of its work by integrating hbm into their GPUs. And AMD with Hynix we codeveloping HBM for 7 years now. Do you see anywhere in any articles mentioning nvidia as codeveloper? Nope. Me neither. It is one thing to codevelope standard and use it and another thing to just use someone else's developed standard.
Only blind people can ignore the advantage AMD has by involving themselves in this endeavour. Will they use that advantage to themselves, only time will tell.
Hynix does not put nvidia GPUs next to their HBM chips. Nvidia does it. They buy chips from Hynix, buy interposers from whoever is doing those and put everything together.
Obviously same goes for AMD, but difference is AMD worked on HBM and probably interposer, while nvidia did not.