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*The GTX590 Club*

Wow first the GTX 480 epic failure and now this GTX 590!! What the hell has happened to Nvidia? I loved my 8800GTX back in the day, ever since AMD had dominated price/performance/poweruse.

I can't believe how much of a failure the GTX 590 is to be honest, Nvidia should recall them imo. Apparantley they are going to release a bios 'fix' to stop the cards exploding. Also if your card does explode its down to you to sort it out becausce Nvidia is making you deal with the retailer you got it from.

Nvidia seem to shafting the customers in this respect, stop selling the cards!

Intel recalled the sandybridge boards becausce of a slim chance that the 3gbs Sata ports would fail after a few years! Nvidia has a card that actually explodes yet is still selling them to there customers?

Epic fail :(
 
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Final8y said:
Funny at the time but this is different situation so lets think about the 590 users ATM & put ourself in their shoes.
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Yeah see my post above that one, its terrible for anyone who bought one. Nvidia should not be selling these cards! Its Nvidias fault they are selling a faulty product and if it explodes its down to you to get your money back from the retailer. Great customer support Nvidia! Problem is fanboys will still blindly buy them, Nvidia aren't even gonna do a recall?!
 
There is another card which people forgot about

the 460, nobody remember the bios problems with certain cards

A minute later, after installing the driver 260.63 beta on the Zotac GTX460 1GB 256-bit , the system freezes with artifacts on the screen. Retrieved on 2 identical video cards - same result. 258.96 driver work fine. Please check the BIOS of this board is compatible with drivers 260.xx. Already many users have encountered the same problem, and feedback from other manufacturers (Palit, Gainward) recently released an update for the BIOS, which 260.xx drivers work well. Thus, it is not a hardware problem as soon as she decides to update the BIOS... And not driver problem. I understand that the problem only occurs on all GTX460 video cards with 4 video outputs (for example, 2 DVI, HDMI, PisplayPort or DVI, VGA, HDMI, PisplayPort). Please do not ignore it.
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crYsis said:
Yeah see my post above that one, its terrible for anyone who bought one. Nvidia should not be selling these cards! Its Nvidias fault they are selling a faulty product and if it explodes its down to you to get your money back from the retailer. Great customer support Nvidia! Problem is fanboys will still blindly buy them, Nvidia aren't even gonna do a recall?!
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Besides the driver a while back that messed with the fan profile i think this is the first that i can remember of a real stock hardware killing issue on gfx cards so lessons will be learnt if we see multiple review cards burning out in the future im sure that people will be less eager to rush in & buy.
 
^^^

Review sites are just a little scared about what they report as the below indicates.
What it should say is, "Why haven't Nvidia recalled these cards under grounds of 'health & safety', after the last software based band-aid (multiple driver updates) failed to prevent the cards from exploding".

"KitGuru says: Great move by nVidia to hard-code a solution into the BIOS. No one wants to see £600 cards exploding – even if there is an RMA process in place. Prevention is definitely better than cure. We will watch this closely and report back on developments."
 
Ejizz said:
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Review sites are just a little scared about what they report as the below indicates.
What it should say is, "Why haven't Nvidia recalled these cards under grounds of 'health & safety', after the last software based band-aid (multiple driver updates) failed to prevent the cards from exploding".

"KitGuru says: Great move by nVidia to hard-code a solution into the BIOS. No one wants to see £600 cards exploding – even if there is an RMA process in place. Prevention is definitely better than cure. We will watch this closely and report back on developments."
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Prevention/delay - who is to say these cards won't just fail further down the line, possibly after the warranty expires. The thing is, they should revisit all of the reviews now. Reminds me of my piece of **** 7900GTX that started artifacting - replaced that 3 times until I got tired of it.
 
I think fanbois' of either side are not too bright, but being impartial to either company and reading this thread from the beginning gave me a chuckle, as it took pictures of forum members dead 580's to stop Nvidia fanbois' defending the card.

Hope you 580 guys get sorted quick sharp and get back gaming soon.

Have fun chaps!
 
Robert said:
Do you have proof that these drivers/bios will down clock the card?

Don't get me wrong I'm not defending Nvidia here but I haven't seen ANY proof that the card will be down clocked.
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I don't see what else they could do with a different BIOS that could fix failures in the power circuitry?

Jaggy said:
Please don't. I couldn't care less what he has to say.

The forum has become usable again after all the infantile nonsense has been cut out. Keep it like that please !!
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I couldn't agree more Jaggy.
 
Robert said:
Do you have proof that these drivers/bios will down clock the card?

Don't get me wrong I'm not defending Nvidia here but I haven't seen ANY proof that the card will be down clocked.
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How else do you reduce power draw? You can't reduce voltage when the card is under heavy load as it will become unstable, the only thing left is to reduce clock's like THIS which is ok for apps like Furmark as it doesn't represent gaming power draw, but when you start down clocking in games just when you 'need' the extra power, it could have a SEVERE impact on the user experience.


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Below is a Furmark benchmark score from Fud, notice the difference in score from a GTX 580 with OCP enabled and a GTX 480 without OCP?
Now imagine a similar (probably less pronounced depending on RMA rate) effect in games, now that the 590 has more OCP since reviews went out, and will now have an even more aggressive form of OCP with the new Bios.
Nvidia may even be forced to release a second Bios if this update also fails to stop cards dyeing, at this point the card makes less sense than it already does at the moment, as a clocked 580 will likely spit out similar FPS.
 
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I agree on the BIOS update downclocking a little bit. The part that keeps going pop must be under some strain with all that juice going through it. So the only way to keep the cards on the market is to slow them down a little.
 
Ejizz said:
How else do you reduce power draw? You can't reduce voltage when the card is under heavy load as it will become unstable, the only thing left is to reduce clock's like THIS which is ok for apps like Furmark as it doesn't represent gaming power draw, but when you start down clocking in games just when you 'need' the extra power, it could have a SEVERE impact on the user experience.


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Below is a Furmark benchmark score from Fud, notice the difference in score from a GTX 580 with OCP enabled and a GTX 480 without OCP?
Now imagine a similar (probably less pronounced depending on RMA rate) effect in games now that the 590 already has since reviews, and will now have a more aggressive form of OCP.
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http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677

I'm really starting to disbelieve some of what's been posted online.
 
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