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*The GTX590 Club*

drunkenmaster said:
Rubbish, 2gb is a waste in 99.999999% of situations for 99.99999% of people.

Every single other thread at the moment is, I have a slight problem with............



"its vmem, you're out of vmem, I saw it in some review at like 1200000x 300000 res and 58xaa and it ran out of memory".

Sorry but 2 months ago 1gb was more than enough in almost every game released, thats STILL the case.


1.2gb is more than enough for almost every game out there, eyefinity or surround screen gaming is still used by almost no one, if you have 3 monitors, then you might want to consider more memory, but theres still quite a lot of games out there that run more than fine on eyefinity with 1gb memory.

Where on earth did the 2gb memory panic come from, essentially every eyefinity review not a few months ago came to the conclusion that extra memory very very rarely made a difference, and in most situations it was in cases where you'd need pretty epic amounts of horsepower to make a difference, like, memory limited at 3 screen res with 4xaa, memory limited to 0.5fps, non memory limited on 2gb cards, 10fps, still not playable, just no longer memory limited.

Yes there ARE cases where more memory will make a world of difference.

99.999% of people on this forum don't game above 1920x1080, incredibly few games will use more than 1gb at high settings at that res.
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well said good post:)
 
Robert said:
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677

I'm really starting to disbelieve some of what's been posted online.
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'The Tech Report' is FOS.
Basically since reviews went out, Nvidia have been increasing their OCP in driver revisions (which still hasn't stopped cards dyeing).
Prior to the 590, the OCP in the 500 series was only noticed in stress apps like Furmark, which severely impacted FPS compared to the 480 due to down clocking, but it did reduce power draw. This wasn't a problem for 580's in games etc because the power draw wasn't as high as in Furmark so there was no need for downclocking.

Now with the 590, Nvidia in increasing the 590's OCP with each driver release, not for stress apps but for games. The new Bios will likely feature more aggressive OCP.

Imagine if game benchmarks looked similar to the below benchmark in reviews, but when you got the card, your benchmarks looked closer to the bottom chart.

Without OCP

overheatingwitholdfurma.jpg



With OCP

overheatingwithnewfurma.jpg



http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/864322-truth-gtx580-furmark-temps-consumption.html
 
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crYsis said:
+1 this is true, there are no current games that require more than 1GB at 1080P or under.
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It's not true at all, and I don't know where DM is getting his figures from but there's several games confirmed to use up more than 1GB of VRAM right now @ 1080p, here's just a few:

Metro 2033, GTA IV, Starcraft 2, Battlefield BC 2, Crysis / Warhead, Dragon Age 2 and F1 2010 which I've just been playing was taking up over 1200MB, although this was with several mods applied.

crYsis said:
Intel recalled the sandybridge boards becausce of a slim chance that the usb port would fail after 3 - 5 years! Nvidia has a card that actually explodes yet is still selling them to there customers?
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Again not true, Intel pinpointed a problem with the 3GBps SATA controller nothing to do with the USB ports, and there were reports of them failing soon after launch not 3-5 years down the line.

Can I suggest you trim your sensationalist crap down to a minimum, or at least do some research before posting.
 
coupe69 said:
It's not true at all, and I don't know where DM is getting his figures from but there's several games confirmed to use up more than 1GB of VRAM right now @ 1080p, here's just a few:

Metro 2033, GTA IV, Starcraft 2, Battlefield BC 2, Crysis / Warhead, Dragon Age 2 and F1 2010 which I've just been playing was taking up over 1200MB, although this was with several mods applied.



Again not true, Intel pinpointed a problem with the 3GBps SATA controller nothing to do with the USB ports, and there were reports of them failing soon after launch not 3-5 years down the line.

Can I suggest you trim your sensationalist crap down to a minimum, or at least do some research before posting.
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sensationalist crap? Whatever mate. Intel stress tested the Sandybridge boards and found that a sata fault (yes I wrote usb by mistake oops) could 'potentially' develop years down the line hence the recall. Read here "it is estimated that about 5% of all systems with this chip would have experienced these failures over a three-year period." Source - http://tech.icrontic.com/news/intel...t-fault-anticipates-1-billion-recall-setback/ Intel did the right thing and issued a recall, fixed the hardware and is now re selling new revised FIXED boards.

Nvidia have a product that explodes! They have decided to keep selling them and leave it down to the customer to sort out there card direct with the retailer if it breaks. Which may be ok unless the retailer argues that the card only exploded becausce it must have been overvolted, when blatently these cards are exploding at stock to. Great customer support there! :) Imo they should stop selling it and do a proper hardware fix, NOT a driver or bios fix. Not sure what is sensationalist crap about that, guess your another Nvidia fanboy who can't see reality through those green tinted glasses you guys wear
 
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crYsis said:
sensationalist crap? Whatever mate. Intel stress tested the Sandybridge boards and found that a sata fault (yes I wrote usb by mistake oops) could 'potentially' develop years down the line hence the recall. Read here "it is estimated that about 5% of all systems with this chip would have experienced these failures over a three-year period." Source - http://tech.icrontic.com/news/intel...t-fault-anticipates-1-billion-recall-setback/ Intel did the right thing and issued a recall, fixed the hardware and is now re selling new revised FIXED boards.

Nvidia have a product that explodes! They have decided to keep selling them and leave it down to the customer to sort out there card direct with the retailer if it breaks. Which may be ok unless the retailer argues that the card only exploded becausce it must have been overvolted, when blatently these cards are exploding at stock to. Great customer support there! :) Imo they should stop selling it and do a proper hardware fix, NOT a driver or bios fix. Not sure what is sensationalist crap about that, guess your another Nvidia fanboy who can't see reality through those green tinted glasses you guys wear
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Completely agree with the above.
Surely Nvidia are doing more harm then good by keeping the product on the market?
 
crYsis said:
some waffle
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LOL :rolleyes:

Where in my post did I say "yay Nvidia should carry on selling a potentially flawed bit of hardware" I was merely correcting you on a couple of points.

You also seemed to have forgotten most of my post which talked about video cards requiring more than 1GB of VRAM, which was the main point I was trying to get across.
 
Alpherah said:
Completely agree with the above.
Surely Nvidia are doing more harm then good by keeping the product on the market?
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You would think, but Nvidia has done this before with much larger volume products, and just carried on selling them even though they new the gpu's were faulty. It's pretty deplorable and there isn't any worthy excuse imo considering any other company who was concerned about reputation and 'brand value' would pull the product off the shelves.
 
coupe69 said:
You also seemed to have forgotten most of my post which talked about video cards requiring more than 1GB of VRAM, which was the main point I was trying to get across.
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He's just bought a 6990 IIRC so is only really interested in slagging off the 590 (not that it needs any help making itself look stupid!:p). and not your, particularly valid, point about VRAM.
 
wolvers said:
He's just bought a 6990 IIRC so is only really interested in slagging off the 590 (not that it needs any help making itself look stupid!:p). and not your, particularly valid, point about VRAM.
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No there's no denying it, Nvidia have dropped an almighty bollock with the 590, it should obviously be recalled no doubt about that. It just annoys me sometimes when people don't engage brain before posting.

Instead of replying to my post about Intel Sandybridge and VRAM limits, I get a load of abuse back calling me a fanboy :confused: Not once did I mention either AMD or Nvidia.
 
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neo-omega said:
Just out of interest, have nVidia now fixed the rather embarrassing self-destruct issue and if so have they done it by just severely limiting/downclocking the card through drivers?
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From the sound of things they are putting a new BIOS in newer cards which should sort out the problem for cards at stock. However, this begs the question as to what will happen to the cards when overclocked, seeing as they will probably bring in some heavy OCP.
That said, if I owned one of these cards I would be too terrified of it exploding to overclock at all!
 
Could this be the worst graphics card release in the history of graphics card releases ?
If no, what was ?
 
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