Ah ha ha ha! Really, that's so weak it's laughable.
Hey, I understand, it can be difficult to comprehend nuance. No need to go full strawman, never go full full strawman.
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Hey, I understand, it can be difficult to comprehend nuance. No need to go full strawman, never go full full strawman.
one of their songs was *****
Nuance? There is no nuance in the title of this thread.
Anyway, the solution is more police and if it's not enough, the next solution is more police until it is resolved.
If there wasn't so much chronic wasting of money there would probably be enough for everything but we have creaky old systems that should be independently audited. Suddenly those champagne lunches for MPs stop being allowed on 'old faithful', the expenses account.
Oh you just read the title and not the content that expands over several pages...
Got it.
Every central public system has inherent inefficiencies within it. That doesn't mean that it should be accepted - far from it - but equally it doesn't mean that those inefficiencies should be trotted out every time to try and defend the basic fact that the UK willingly underfunds state investment, and has done for a long, long time. MP's expenses, in this scenario, is just pure deflection.
I see you've edited your post. So when will that be? When will there be enough? All the police are getting to retirement age and uptake is slow. Forces are lucky to get 30 people a year. So yeah, we could raise taxes, do recruitment drives, train the applicants, assign them to troubled areas. Should be doable in 5 years, 10 tops.
Or we could just utilise a resource already at hand.
Much easier to hand it off. I agree, much simpler than trying to think of a solution for yourself.
Easy life all way baby, "someone else's problem".
Do you really think the government is capable of getting anything done? I mean, after years the 'big result' from being part of the EU was call roaming. There are thousands of people that all get paid to achieve nothing.
After nearly 5 months have we got PPE for medical staff? How are those 100k tests coming along?
But there isn't. Military and police are very different resources, which is why they're not sent to do each other's jobs. They could give it a go in an emergency, but they're very far from interchangeable.
To implement your plan, you would have to have the army authorised and willing to deliberately kill civilians in your own country. You said yourself it was a show of force, which means that you have to be willing and able to apply that force. In the case of the army, the force is deadly force. Even when military forces are there to keep the peace, they're there to keep the peace by force - the message is "keep the peace or be killed". Military forces can be deployed in a non-military capacity where a quick response by a large group of people well trained in working together is useful. Disaster relief, for example. But not as force to replace police. The "force" part would mean deploying military forces in a military capacity.
We've literally been doing this in Northern Ireland for decades, so it's not exactly some new idea nobody's ever tried before.
I didn't say it was a new idea. I said it was a bad idea.
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What communities are they terrorising?
I have only really heard of one case where they ended up being evicted off a farm.
I'm sure there may be a few more here and there but the truth of the matter is they are now living in houses and over time are integrating into society and give it another 2 generations and they won't know what gypsies are. They will be an extreme minority in time.
I've had a few collect stuff I've put on gumtree for free. Never had an issue with them. I've also had some offer to clean my monoblock driveway and roof, I've declined and never had any issues.
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Look, some people might advocate deporting the police to Siberia WITHOUT arming them first but I, sir, am not a monster.
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They called in an air drop to get their custom loadouts!Deposits left on the road outside the local ***** camp:
Nothing to do with them I'm sure.
Lol! You really are on a different planet aren't you?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-44313866
Are those houses they've parked in the entrance there?
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/caravan-convoy-crash-m5-arrests-4033113
Are those houses that they were driving down the road in a convoy during lockdown?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...UK-average-police-say-fear-called-racist.html
"It follows an investigation by Channel 4 Dispatches finding crime near traveller sites is around 50 per cent higher than the national average"
I guess that's because they're all lovely and law abiding...oh...wait.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/560727/Gypsies-spent-1m-government-handout-huge-cannabis-farm
I personally found that one to be a bit of a bonus.
He's up in bonnie Scotland and as far as I'm aware they aren't as much of an issue up that way, seems to be less of them and the locals are more willing to sort it out themselves.
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No issues up here. I've never had any issues with them and I've never heard of anyone having any trouble with them.
My mate even gets one to clean his roof and driveway every year