The Indoor Riding/ Zwift/ TrainerRoad etc. Thread

Ahhh not sure if I posted at the time, in 2019 my free hub did that on the Neo. It went really really rough and was garbage after 12 months use.

I got onto Tacx support and they told me it was 45 euro for the replacement Tacx branded freehub, I can’t remember how the conversation/emails went, friendly not strongly worded after a couple back/forth they posted it me FOC. I was maybe 6 months outside of warranty at the time. I think this is before they were bought out by Garmin.

I changed the cassette at the weekend and the bearings felt good still, and no bite marks on it. I’d say it’s worth changing to it if you can.

Back on the bike, oddly my P2M calibration must have been off as it felt really hard the first 10 mins, remembered to freewheel for 3 seconds to auto calibrate and problem solved. Not had this happen before but seems fine, maybe a big temperature change or something affected it since last ride IDK.

Computer seems fine now which is good! Today I had a max core 49c, FPS only 40, so the reduced ghz noticeably affects the performance, but miles better than crashes and drop outs!
 
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Nothing worse when it's inconsistent is there.

I went on for a second ride and after pairing everything we set off I had zero connections, had to restart companion app which works but within one second of pedaling would be zero again. Got there eventually and had to wait on the group coming back round to sweep me up. Same as you at the start low power for effort required but once giving it some bigger numbers some sort of normal feel resumed.
 
Tdz stage 4 b today. Couldn't be arsed doing the whole a route after last week's ventoux effort. Really good ride, over 1000 people on it so seemed to take me forever to work my way up near the front but it'd split already by that point even on the flat. Kept in the second big group about 60 to 90th position until the zig zag climbs where I just put down some moderate power (330 to 340w) and I seem to jump a load of positions so I dug in and put a bit more power in and was ip to 40th by the top of the climb, eased over the top and got caught by a few people and stuck with that group to the end, gave a kick and finished 40th I think. Didn't look like anyone else bothered by was using it as training so a good final push. Think was 289w or so average for the 30ish mins and legs felt pretty good with a bit in hand.

Enjoying that sort of length race as can push a bit and recover compared to the long races where they just seem to be who can hold the W/kg for longest. Need the harder efforts with my training load as it is now in the feint hope we may get some cx with some local races being planned for early spring if lockdown restrictions ease back to tier 2.
 
I joined a race after a mate asked me yesterday. First one since 2017. Quite a tough effort. I didn't expect the rolling lumps to make much difference but they really did. I'm kinda useless with short efforts. I stuck with front group until my neighbour came knocking at my door. I tried to ignore the door not knowing it was him but the window was open right next to me. Peeked through blinds and he realised I was cycling and said he'd come back in 30 mins but by that point I'd lost the front group! :( Rolled around with the second group until the end. Not completely convinced I'd have stuck with the front group anyway but it would have been nice to try! (I realise this sounds like an incredibly elaborate excuse :D)
 
Annoying on the TDZ today. Doing the A option and it loaded me in to Yorkshire world, but with the timing screens and position for the real event. By the time I had realised something was wrong and restarted everything I missed the start. has anyone else had this happen? Is it a known bug?

I slipped back fairly quickly and managed to stay with a group for a lap around position 140, then slipped back on the second hill set and finished mid 170s with an average of 233W (2.85w/kg and new FTP) so happy overall. Also took over 6 minutes out my previous best lap time, so definitely making progress!
 
Zwift is being a pain for a lot of people at the moment.

I joined two races and ended up with no other riders in the event. Reloaded zwift countless times and no fix. Will give it s go tomorrow to see if it's any better.
 
Zwift is being a pain for a lot of people at the moment.

I joined two races and ended up with no other riders in the event. Reloaded zwift countless times and no fix. Will give it s go tomorrow to see if it's any better.

Mine was mostly fine today.

I had the game freeze for 5 seconds when I had almost finished my ride, but then it continued. Zwiftaliser didn’t show any problems at this time.

I did a route I haven’t done before (but have done all the individual parts). Up the KOM, straight in so no radio tower and then around the jungle, flat volcano and home. A good 25 minutes climb to the KOM and out of the jungle is 8-9 mins since the gravel update made road bikes slow up there. Pushed myself reasonably hard, 90 minutes to get round which is longer than I’ve ridden for quite a while.
 
Stupid decision to do a Road to Sky race today with no legs, but nothing else took my fancy at 9am, either much longer or too short. Not great legs plus cold as hell in the garage. Managed a 56:29 total at 274W average. Enough for a Sunday morning. Had a little afternoon spin after work calls were done too whilst watching CX, just didn't fancy layering up in the slush and snow first thing or falling off.
 
Mine was mostly fine today.

I had the game freeze for 5 seconds when I had almost finished my ride, but then it continued. Zwiftaliser didn’t show any problems at this time.

I did a route I haven’t done before (but have done all the individual parts). Up the KOM, straight in so no radio tower and then around the jungle, flat volcano and home. A good 25 minutes climb to the KOM and out of the jungle is 8-9 mins since the gravel update made road bikes slow up there. Pushed myself reasonably hard, 90 minutes to get round which is longer than I’ve ridden for quite a while.

My issue seems to be a wifi issue that hasn't been a thing since I moved here.

I've been using the phone for devices to connect to then the phone being on the same wifi as the PC they can talk to each other.

Wifi goes down so the game can't get my data and also everyone disappeared. My first race this morning had an amazing start by sprinting off the line and staying in the front group - even with a cheat who won with 5.2w/kg. Lost two laps and jumped back in with my boss who was quite far down the pack. I connected via BT dongle to the PC so no heart rate but it felt stable enough to finish that race.

Next race I kept connected via the dongle and I had two instances of everyone disappearing but they came back within a second or two but as it could still read the data I was still in the race and got 10th. I'm putting it down to Wifi as the dongle is only 2.4ghz and my phone is getting 4x the speed on 5ghz.
 
I'm putting it down to Wifi as the dongle is only 2.4ghz and my phone is getting 4x the speed on 5ghz.

I'd be surprised if 2.4Ghz wasn't fast enough? It's often more reliable than 5Ghz, which I might have thought was more important. 5Ghz can be handy if you're streaming HD video.
 
I guess it's more an issue of interference than the outright range available on 2.4Ghz. Sure it might have higher range but if the signal is suffering interference it's going to be worse. Perhaps try some Powerline adapters for better reliability.
 
Usually being the operative word. I know at a friends place the 2.4Ghz connection is awful and I've struggled in a highly populated area before too. Worth trying to switch channels but choice is obviously limited.
 
Ordered a plug in WiFi adapter with actual antenna rather than a dongle.

I turned off 2.4ghz and my phone was sitting at 100mbps Vs 30mbps on my PC using 2.4ghz.

Don't even know what my virgin connection is rates at.
 
Ahhh not sure if I posted at the time, in 2019 my free hub did that on the Neo. It went really really rough and was garbage after 12 months use.
Interesting to hear this, reassuring me so thanks for sharing!

As my power numbers/averages have been so good since I removed the bad bearing (actually remounted the freehub with only an outside bearing!) I kinda kept riding it until the day after the new freehub arrived...

https://www.strava.com/activities/4639011135 - TDZ#3 up Ventop saw me get a pretty good FTP bump from 262W to 273W. Legs felt fantastic. Sceptical of freehub.
https://www.strava.com/activities/4648677230 - TDZ#4 Aqueduct another great ride, although not as deep as the previous still numbers are good (and bang on the new FTP). Happier with it and reassured it wasn't a fluke.
https://www.strava.com/activities/4659114518 - WTRL absolutely brutal, but hung on to the big boys who'd dropped me within 8km the previous week before the freehub problem solved. Massive ride and accomplishment for me.

Then sunday I did a double. But before it I had fitted the replacement T2805.01(S) Tacx branded freehub. So this was a bit of a trial to confirm to myself I still had the power from the above rides on a known good/ 'fixed' freehub.
https://www.strava.com/activities/4674356843 - TDZ#5 again a massive one but went too hard early so was really grovelling by the top of the Volcano. Very cold garage to start with. But really happy with the numbers! Still took over 2 minutes off my PR even though it felt 'slow'.
https://www.strava.com/activities/4675292147 - did 70km of the usual Sunday 3R Endurance 100km ride. Tough one as Zwift problems killed my companion app and many people where having chat problems. So very little distraction.

I actually rode on sunday with a bar heater on in the garage pointed at me from a good distance to try and heat the air. Garage was frozen when I changed the freehub (-3) but by the time I'd got riding was over 0, then by the time I reached the Endurance ride it was around 8 degrees (measuring with head unit on my bars). It worked quite well, but I did find myself in damp kit cooling very quickly without sweeping/keeping efforts I would normally be doing... But then much of that 2.5w/kg endurance ride is now z1/z2 for me! :o

So yeah, I'm now up to a 276W FTP. A crazy high number to suddenly 'jump' to without any specific training... If anything the reduction in TTT's over the break actually means I lost intensity, then the switch to working from home means I've lost lots of base/junk miles. The only reason for the close to 20W increase must be the freehub.

TLDR; check/service your trainer freehub bearings!

Kept in the second big group about 60 to 90th position until the zig zag climbs where I just put down some moderate power (330 to 340w) and I seem to jump a load of positions so I dug in and put a bit more power in and was ip to 40th by the top of the climb
I seem to be finding that... Seems absolute madness and full of heroes at the start and along the flats, but when there's a climb and they're all mewing like kittens I drop/catch/pass a bunch. Just like a real sportive then! :D ;)

I stuck with front group until my neighbour came knocking at my door. I tried to ignore the door not knowing it was him but the window was open right next to me. Peeked through blinds and he realised I was cycling and said he'd come back in 30 mins but by that point I'd lost the front group!
Haha gutted but good work. Good excuse too! One of the jokes in the current TTT team is the captain not using push to talk, as well as suffering from asthma, so we get a good amount of him dying later in the courses while he's breathing out of his ar*e. So much so that when he skipped last week, we took it in turns to do the same (as we're mostly all on PTT).

Annoying on the TDZ today. Doing the A option and it loaded me in to Yorkshire world, but with the timing screens and position for the real event. By the time I had realised something was wrong and restarted everything I missed the start. has anyone else had this happen? Is it a known bug?

I slipped back fairly quickly and managed to stay with a group for a lap around position 140, then slipped back on the second hill set and finished mid 170s with an average of 233W (2.85w/kg and new FTP) so happy overall. Also took over 6 minutes out my previous best lap time, so definitely making progress!
Good work on those positions, what course did you ride?

I have had that before on Zwift - it teleports you to the 'wrong' world for the course the ride is on. Annoying, but quite a rare thing. I'll always generally 'join' the ride I'm in from Zwift power (takes you to it on Zwift site), before or while loading laptop/Zwift. Then I join the default world it has selected, get spinning checking everything is working, the event will be in the bottom left and I'll join using that. It does mean a world teleport, but I have generally found that teleport happens faster once I'm in a world already, rather than it being prompted from the first riding/course screen with the tabs at the top.

Ah pantaloons, I just forgot to do tour of zwift stage 4.
Catch up at the end! I'm going to re-ride stage 2 as I loved it and missed the first 10km due to technicals. Also missed stage 1... And would quite like to do a proper effort up the Alpe as part of a race type event too... :o

My issue seems to be a wifi issue that hasn't been a thing since I moved here.

I guess it's more an issue of interference than the outright range available on 2.4Ghz. Sure it might have higher range but if the signal is suffering interference it's going to be worse. Perhaps try some Powerline adapters for better reliability.
All riders vanishing from screen, then coming back is generally your connection, even lack of bandwidth can do this. I've seen it when someone fires up the PC in the house and it does a download...

We had an additional layer of insulation put into the outside walls (including the wall to the garage). Foil covered foam stuff into a metal floating frame. That really made things 100x worse, so much so it wasn't ridable/stable/reliable enough to consider racing with. I used a set of powerlines and it 'worked' for getting my connection stable, but then as companion app isn't on the 'same network' as the laptop running zwift it never got in sync (never took me to 'Game' screen).

Setting up an old router with large external antenna as a 'hotspot' to solve that is probably the best thing I've done. It's situated right next to the wall to the garage where I'm riding. 'Main' router is only around 6-7m away, but through another doorway and is a basic home type router without external antenna. It's been rock solid since... Even the times the laptop joins the wrong network, I get riding and it drops out... I can generally reach over and connect to the hotspot network, within 2-3s Zwift comes back with all riders and it rock solid. Zwift is quite a resilient platform for poor connections, so you seem to drop in and out rather than get disconnected!
 
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Haha gutted but good work. Good excuse too! One of the jokes in the current TTT team is the captain not using push to talk, as well as suffering from asthma, so we get a good amount of him dying later in the courses while he's breathing out of his ar*e. So much so that when he skipped last week, we took it in turns to do the same (as we're mostly all on PTT).
What are you using for talk? I joined the guys on Discord (first time using it)... was pretty surprised I couldn't map PTT to the inline bluetooth earphone buttons.
 
Has anyone had any issues lately where they join a world and they are the only one there?

Had it a few times recently, but if I close Zwift and re-launch it, it's fine.
 
Has anyone had any issues lately where they join a world and they are the only one there?

Had it a few times recently, but if I close Zwift and re-launch it, it's fine.

The vast majority of the time if you end up alone in a world or people disappear on you during a ride.... it is client side. Not server side. Having said that, I have seen a heap of complaints from people saying riders are vanishing/re-appearing both in terms of themselves and others. The increase in that does seem in line with what you are seeing so this might be a zwift side issue.
They have also broken in game chat quite a bit.
All these issues after the update on Friday last week as per standard. They like to break run of the mill basic functionality each time they release an update with no apparent changes to anything.
 
What are you using for talk? I joined the guys on Discord (first time using it)... was pretty surprised I couldn't map PTT to the inline bluetooth earphone buttons.
Race3R use Discord too, have used it all along for the racing and TTT's with them. Generally before all the team 'chat' was within Facebook groups but it was an admin nightmare, so over the Xmas break they migrated all chat to Discord, voice and general. It works quite well.

I can't imagine what it was like with Facebook chats, I was only in 6 of them. Now in Discord I see it all - 6 Announcement channels, 34 voice channels, 27 'chat' channels. 360 users (but not seen more than 100 online at once).

Has anyone had any issues lately where they join a world and they are the only one there?

Had it a few times recently, but if I close Zwift and re-launch it, it's fine.
Haven't seen that, mine tends to load me in and then if I'm going to have problems with vanishing riders it tends to be in the first 5 minutes. Only then do I realise the laptop is on the wrong wifi... Yes I could set it up as mesh/extended but quite like the fact it's only my Zwift equipment connected to the wifi (I also switch the router/hotspot on and off as a little concerned about it's security - due to age).
 
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