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The Intel Arc owners thread

Quartz said:
Daniel Owen tests the B580 against the RX 9060 XT 16 GB and finds the latter about 40% faster with some outliers.

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46% overall, it is a more expensive card, £260 vs £315, or 21%.

Technically the 9060 XT 16GB is better value, because it gets more percentage performance than its percentage in price difference, but if you want a £250 card with enough VRam the B580 is your only choice.

The B580 is in a different price bracket so i do think comparing it to the 9060 XT 16GB is a fair comparison, i do get it tho, its the closest thing one can compare it too.

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The B580 has dropped about 30 quid in price(converted) here in Denmark. Before you would have to pay around 2600DKK(296£) with tax(25%) to get one and now you can get a new one from around 2350DKK(266£). A few days ago they were available for around 2199DKK(250£). Guess the reason for the increase is that the "MSRP" 9060 XT 16gb is sold out so there is nothing to put pressure on the price.

I still think the B580 is a cracking little GPU for the right price. Just build a new PC for a friend and the B580 was on my radar for an alternative in case the 9060 XT prices was out of hand. We ended up going a different route though as he found some more money.
 
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I see the RTX 5050 is £220 and has the performance of a RTX 3060. I wonder if this presages a price drop for the B580?
 

TLDW Creative Suite / Premier Pro doesn't like Arc and he had problems with Jedi Survivor. Otherwise he had a good time.

Elsewhere the RTX 5050 has been tested at 1080p and it falls behind the B580 by a few percent.
 
Quartz said:
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Performance, TPU at 1440P.
1, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB: 135%
2, RX 9060 XT 16GB: 120%
3, Intel B580 12GB: 100%

Price.
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB: £380.
RX 9060 XT 16GB: £330.
Intel B580 12GB: £240.

Price to performance, £ per FPS at 1440P.
Intel B580 12GB: £4.18.
RX 9060 XT 16GB: £4.77.
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB: £4.88.

Value vs the 5060 Ti 16GB.
1, Intel B580 12GB: +16.7%
2, RX 9060 XT 16GB: +2.3%
#, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB: 0.0%


He is right on the face of it but he also knows Intel are having to give these away, even quoting Intel saying they are having to wrap these cards in money to sell them, while of course this is not literal but for the cost of making and developing them they should be more expensive to turn a profit or even just get their money back.
Like the rest of them they are £300+ cards, the trouble is Intel can't compete with that, what people are looking for is cards with more than 8GB of VRam for £250 or less, which is why they are selling some, there is no alternative.

Steve must know, because if he doesn't he's bloody stupid, which he isn't, that eventually at some point Intel will have to erode that value proposition and become no different to Nvidia / AMD in order to make the business profitable, so what's the point? All he is doing is grooming another AMD / Nvidia, he even said he want's Intel to force AMD to come down to Intel's level which in turn might force Nvidia to come down to the same level, what Steve? Do you think AMD and then Nvidia will reconstitute their business to none profit? Because why? because Intel will remain so? you know this isn't true, and you have this contradictory logic because one guy told you what you wanted to hear?

You and your ilk once thought Nvidia was our saviour, that they didn't need competition because they would be a force for the good of PC gamers, because they invented everything that's wrong with the space now which you liked and loved to promote like an Nvidia marketing arm.

You're doing this because you realised you've been stupid and you've been taken for a fool by Nvidia, Intel are not the new saviours, they will not be replacing AMD as a better challenger to Nvidia, the best challenger to Nvidia always was and still is AMD, if you get what you want it will only make Nvidia more dominant because neither Intel or AMD can challenge Nvidia with 8% market share between them and Intel on their own will be less effective than AMD are now, have you looked at Intel's finances lately? AMD are turning a healthy profit, Intel are losing money and marketshare in every segment hand over fist. Intel are not the biggest chip company anymore, have you not noticed? You might as well be backing Matrox.

The 1060 6GB was $300 in 2016, adjusted for US inflation that's $402 today, the 5060 Ti 16GB is in stock available for $430 in the US.

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Quartz said:
I have long said that the Arc cards need to be substantially cheaper than the Nvidia competitor cards.



And was overpriced then.
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The reason i used the 1060 is because its one of the best all time value for money GPU's, it was lorded as such by all the tech journalists and its sales numbers reflected that topping the Steam Charts for years.

Inflation is a real thing, governments spend more money than they have coming in and so they print it, that increases the amount of money in the economy which in turn dilutes the currency, what was £10 in 2015 is now equivalent to £7 in 2025, so now you're spending £14 to get something that in 2015 would have cost you £10, or a ##60 class GPU at £300 in 2015 is now £420.

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This is not actually Nvidia, we can blame Nvidia for many things, but not inflation, that you can and should blame on your government's spending habits. and they never think they are spending enough, because they don't pay for that spending, you do, people are always generous with other peoples money.
 
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