The problem is Frank, Mourinho isn't making the most out of what he has and is always happier to blame his players or lack of signings for any issues instead of trying to do his best. I would say we had the 2nd best squad in the league last season and easily the best keeper who probably added a good 10 points to our final total. We have a left back who has shown that he has masses of potential (Shaw) but he barely gets a sniff, a LM/LW who is one of the hottest young players in Europe who doesn't get a look in most of the time (Martial) and who will likely leave at the first chance. I'm not sure that any of our players are massively enjoying their football or playing to their potential apart from DDG. .
I think its very clear from last season that the right wing area is a very weak spot, I cant really understand why anyone debates that - Valencia and Mata are incredibly weak on that side, every opposition knows that majority of our goals come from the left / central areas so defences are compressed into that half - 2/3 because they don't have to worry about the right at all. Every single player from Rashford / Martial / Sanchez / Mata and even Lingard on some occasions were completely invisible in games when played in that area of the pitch. I think that's proof enough that JM is trying to get things to work with what he has.
Shaw is a difficult one, he has had consistant fitness concerns since before he arrived, the horrendous injuries don't help on top of that but admittedly some of that is down to JM's treatment of him in public also - but even so given the stature of Utd we should still be going for a better option than a converted winger - who usually manages to hit the first defender with every cross (much like Valencia on the other side).
Its highly debatable we have the 2nd best squad, we certainly don't have the 2nd best defence - the stats are just assisted hugely by the majesty of DDG - I wouldn't be surprised if you are doing him an injustice by saying just 10 points - more like 20. Smalling /Jones and Rojo have no place in the squad after this length of time.
Compare Sane at City to Martial at United. One has been backed by his manager and supported while he adjusts to the premier league and makes mistakes and the other has been ignored, thrown on for 10 minutes at the end of a game where the rest of the team around him barely moves and is then criticised for his performance. One has rewarded his manager with massive improvements and a large part of their title success towards the end of the season and the other one looks like he is just treading water until he can leave to play somewhere else. Sane at the start of the season didn't look like he was even half decent. Lost the ball a lot, didn't really accomplish much when he played but Pep persisted with him because he saw potential.
City are winning a game 2-0 and they will give a player some time on the pitch. United are winning 2-0 and Mourinho will wait until the 75th minute and put on Fellaini to see the game out.
Even if you gave Mourinho 250m every summer to spend he would still complain that the players he bought aren't playing well enough or that he needs more. He always blames someone else and thinks that the squad is the problem instead of his managerial skills.
Sane has quite a bit more experience 1st off (his seasons back in Germany appear to have helped him enourmously), its not a like for like comparison at all (apart form position)
Apart from that, Martial does have a bad habit of being completely invisible in large proportions of games - when he comes alive he can be brilliant without question but Utd cant afford to carry him SO much. every EPL game you need all 10 outfield players working majority of the time and this just doesn't happen with Martial.
Apart from the very beginning of the season when Utd won 3 or 4 on the bounce 4-0 Utd rarely got to 2-0 early in games anyway (and quite a few of those goals were late anyway) , and to be honest the performance levels were so up and down from game to game that's hardly surprising. I detest Fellaini being at Utd, and don't think he should have been re-signed at all. and hopefully with Periera showing decent promise in pre-season that means less visibility of Fellaini in midfield hopefully (and he isn't that great a striker either)
There are blatant deficiencies in the Utd 1st team let alone the squad (the whole back 4 / back 5 minus Bailly, admittedly with his own injury concerns, and Lindeloff who needs time to settle - need completely revamping - we need more creativity in midfield (esp on the right) and really more decent options in cm (not sure about Mctominey but he deserves time, but needs to concentrate harder imo)
esp if we are going to go with 3 in cm for most games.
the fact that we have only spent £75m this summer and already need to sell before buying anyone else should send alarm bells ringing everywhere imo - whether you like JM or not.
Also pretty pointless giving JM a contract ext in Jan and then not backing him fully in the summer. Remember we can still sell (admittedly abroad only) for 4 weeks, there shouldn't be pressure on selling during the few days left of when we can still buy players.
Its pretty harsh to blame JM on some things (like Mikhi not working out, Zlatan's injury and Bailly's health , and Bailly is still Utd's best defender). I know a lot of people want to write off Lindeloff but imo he just needs more time to show how good he is. If Pogba was able to be more consistant it would bring a whole new dimension to the team.
Did they **** it up or were they simply not willing to pay such a big fee on a 28 year old? Iirc, you were very much against Utd spending so much on him last summer. As I said in my reply to Loki, the board's job is to make funds available but make sure they're not spent recklessly. They have to draw the line somewhere.
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Even this summer there are numerous reports that the board wouldn't go "the extra few million" to buy Peresic last sumer - I cant see a few million making a difference between reckless and non-reckless. All prices have gone stupid since Neymar moved , its imposslbe to say whats worth it or not
admittedly with hindsight its easy for supporters to know why we desperately needed Peresic last season, but surely that's the experience of JM (and in theory the board) should know how big a hole was left over that few million. Given how much the board agreed to pay Sanchez 6 months later, personally it sounds like Peresic would have been the MUCH cheaper option. All because of a few million.
He wanted "4 specialists" in his first summer and he said Utd could challenge for the title - he got them all at huge expense. He was then given huge money again the following summer, including spending a big fee on an aging Matic. You then signed another aging player in Sanchez, on a hugely expensive contract. If two positions Mourinho still wants players in are as what's being reported, CB & winger, then it's easy to understand why the board aren't willing to spend huge fees, especially if they don't believe they're getting value - whether that be due to age or quality. As I asked Loki, if you were running the finances at Utd would you not be slightly concerned about spending a huge fee on another CB, having already bought two expensive CB's in the previous 2 summers? Would you not be worried about spending £50m+ on Perisic or Willian, having already brought in Sanchez, knowing that in a couple of years they're going to need replacing again?
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bailly wasn't expensive in wages or transfer fee
Ibra came on a free and his already huge wages reflected that with signing on fee etc
Pogba still isn't consistant - very little JM can do about that, its more down to the player (albeit formations help)
Mkhi was never consistant - again not expensive in himself as a transfer - so no "at vast expense" it definitely wasn't for two of these.
Matic also wasn't that expensive - between EPL teams £40m is not expensive at all in last summers market
you didn't buy two expensive cb's in the last two summers - because of Neymar esp (even before that in reality) 30m is a budget buy, you of all people should see that after seeing Liverpool spend £70m+ on a CB in the last few months. It also depends on tactics - if you need to play 3 CB's in every game you need three 1st choice players - we have tried endless years of Smallin& Jones and they are clearly not good enough. We need a 3rd first choice with experience.....which will cost money.
we have some promising kids coming through at CB, but they still need experience at this level, but you still need a full first choice list of 3 CB's for starting berths. If one purchase is that much older (and potentially cant play every game but plays the most important) then that gives the kids the opportunity to grow and get the experience befoere the older purchase retires
So yeah, in a nutshell, Mourinho’s attitude has a huge bearing on Utd’s negative press, and the journo’s will be waiting like snarling wolves for every little mistake that’s made at Old Trafford.
That has got something to do with it for sure - but there is a lot of press that are just highly negative of Utd just because they want to be.
Pep moans off the record and it gets reported in other ways - JM moans on record and he gets criticized for doing so. both are wrong in their own way but the press definitely idolizes Pep just because he is Pep (so he gets away with more from the press)
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