I don’t know why you need to argue in bad faith / extremes. I’d like to see the balance of power, percentage of property in local council hands be far above private but for private LL to still exist for the niche / upper market properties. I feel council housing should be much more available and a stepping stone for those that will eventually own their own home.
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What is difficult to understand? I’m not proposing the end of private landlords completely. My argument is simply that there should be more social housing available and that percentage should be further in the direction of affordable council housing. Of course there should still be a smaller market for the use cases dowie pointed out.
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What bad faith/extremes? You suggested this:
That literally is an extreme!
Then when asked questions about it you seem to have backtracked.
Why not build more council housing if you want more council housing? It's not just the upper market properties where people want to rent privately.
Why assume that everyone who is not rich and rents will want a council flat? Some young graduates may want a modern flat with a gym on sight etc. doesn't need to be a penthouse or a fancy town house.
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Really not back tracking. I think extremes in any direction is 99% of the time a terrible idea. I just want the balance of power shifted so those that work / grow up on their town have affordable options that give them a let up. Private tenants just trying to get by have been rinsed by LLs for to long.
OK so for the third time of asking:
Why not build more council housing if you want more council housing? Or indeed just buy up some open market properties if you think local authorities will be better able to allocate them and manage them.
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Absolutely agree
So what is the point of this unclear idea re: taking control of private rental accommodation?
The issue again, is a supply issue. People trying to blame landlords are totally missing the point here, as per the video I posted. We need more landlords not fewer! We also need more local authority housing and more housing in general for people who want to buy. That's how you more get affordable housing, by building more of it
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Because sufficient new local authority housing isn't being built!
If we want to make it easier for people to find an affordable place to live we need to build more homes, that's pretty much it. + some infrastructure investment too, we seem to be lagging massively there, shutting down railway lines was a really dumb idea in retrospect, we could do with more railways, more inner city trams/light rail... and of course more high-speed rail too.
We could solve so much by simply building a **** load more housing and making sure the various productive areas of the country have plenty more good transport connections.
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You’re not wrong about the railways. I live in Edinburgh, we had local stations for almost every large area within the city, yet we completely abandoned it :/ spent millions on a tram that wasn’t even required. Shameful what has happened
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not sure if it what is wanted but I would be in favour of forced purchase of private rented accomodation where the landlord has absolutely been provent to be a scumbag and has ignored demands to sort their property out. I am not talking minor issues but the ones like in ... I think it was panorama a few months back. they were a disgrace, and are the type who give all LLs a bad name.
of course the council then actually need to do better (I can imagine council ending up being slum LLs going on how long it takes them to fix the roads
Sure, if someone fails fundamental safety stuff - like gas checks, not repairing property to the point where it's dangerous to live in then by all means. Though it could just as easily be auctioned off to anyone.
I'm not sure it's particularly efficient for the council to have to deal with all sorts of random flats/houses rather than managing blocks of flats and estates at scale.
* Mortgage payments are often cheaper than rent
* Appreciation in property values means you're arguably better off, but never worse
* Can do what you like with the place (decoration, etc)
* Can have pets
* Don't have to fight the landlord to get repairs done (it's your responsibility)
* Don't have to worry about eviction for any other reason than being unable to make mortgage repayments
* Aren't enriching some opportunist, whose only qualification to be your landlord was having more capital than you
Not _everybody_ wants to buy, but there are plenty who would be better off if they _could_ buy, and weren't forced to rent.
To flip your question: "Why do people think everyone who rents doesn't want to buy?"
Parking doesn't cover just cars but bikes of all varieties too. Do you really want residents to carry their motorbike to the top floor?
Local authorities? You mean you, the council tax-payer.
The trouble is ideology plays a large part in govt policy, as we all know.
The Tories are committed to 'Right to Buy' and preventing Councils from increasing social housing provision. Because private everything is best, y'all. Much efficiencies and all that jazz.
At the same time, how many £billions does the govt pay to private landlords in housing benefit? It's quite a lot! But the Tories absolutely do not mind giving money to private businesses and landlords, etc. They won't fund Councils, the NHS, or public services, but they'll fund and subsidise everyone else. It's perverse.
Didn't someone a while back post data showing rent is often cheaper then a mortgage. If I look around my area a 200k house is approx £650 rent but a mortgage for the same place would be £900 if not over £1000 unless you had a massive deposite. That's not even counting all the other costs of getting a mortgage. Renting tends to be way cheaper annually especially when you factor in running costs and everything else you have to pay if you own the same house. In many cases renting annually can be aprox half the running costs of owning the same house though of course there are lots of factor so its not always the case.
A large amount of people who rent prefer to rent and don't want to own. As for enriching some opportunist that's just pure bitterness and hate that immoral people like to aim at landlords.
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People also dislike eBay resellers. Call it bitterness if you like. They're both basically inhabiting the same circle of hell
Ha, my mum lost about £20k on her flat
Yup, my tenants managed to decorate it with filth. Cost me £4K to sort the place out
My tenants had a dog
I had to fight to get people around to do boiler services and house inspections once a year, the tenant was always putting it off no matter what accomodation was made.
Fair.
Opportunists? Some no doubt, not all. Plus they do all the repairs and take the risk of tenants not paying with the costs that entails.
One size doesn't fit all.
Tenants should have protections. Landlords should have protections.
Things just aren't as black and white as you paint them.