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Wouldn't surprise me if he got the sack. As always, you have a few hundred million pounds of player and a few million pounds worth of manager.

Uniteds core issue outside of the owners/structure is the player power.

I can't think of any team that has success with Uniteds issues. Arsenal have done a cracking job of sidestepping them recently but they have been aided by a few very good buys and a little luck. They cleared out the egos and gave the manager the power. They had a team of hungry young players with a lot to prove and no egos to contend with.

Despite EtH handling everything that has come his way as well as he could (IMO), he still has problems. He still has big egos in the team. He still has a lot of players who have sat through multiple managers being sacked and they know exactly how it goes. Rashford got his new contract and has been back to his form of old. Sancho is behaving like a spoilt little brat. Theres rumours of unrest in the dressing room....again.

Liverpool players know that if they cross Klopp they are gone. City players know the same. Both teams also know that if they work hard and trust the manager they will win things. United players simply don't seem to care. Given the choice between the hard graft and potential silverware and the easy life they take the easy life.

Yes we have too many injuries at the moment but the same core issues are rearing their heads.
 
Steedie said:
I think you give too much credit to modern day managers/players. They'll go wherever the money is
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Honestly, Man Utd is a job that is frankly cancer to the careers of anyone who might touch it. The top tier managers will not want to sully their reputation by failing at Man Utd.

Man Utd won’t pay those in demand managers enough to make it worth their while. Any manager that good can get the same sort of money at a top club elsewhere in a better state.
 
Is Sancho still being paid while he continues his feud with ETH. Why dont they have something in the contract that reduces wages for disciplinary reasons ?
 
There's a lot in the media about Ten Hag this morning. General consensus is that there are concerns but he's not in immediate danger and the ownership situation further complicates things. All as you'd expect.

However, we can discuss it all we like, but if this form continues he'll be gone at the next international break - I think that will be the crucial moment.

Next fixtures -

Fulham (Away) - tomorrow at 12:30
Copenhagen (Away) - Wed 8th
Luton (Home) - Sat 11th
 
Anything less than 3 wins in those games is a complete failure in my eyes, Fulham being the toughest I imagine but you should have more than enough to cope with them
 
I saw a tweet earlier, a scan of a Newspaper during Fergies second season at Utd. Saying something like Fergie must go now. The start to the second season was worse than his first, wasted 2m on new players, not playing for the team etc (all paraphrasing btw). Seems all to familiar
 
Droolinggimp said:
I saw a tweet earlier, a scan of a Newspaper during Fergies second season at Utd. Saying something like Fergie must go now. The start to the second season was worse than his first, wasted 2m on new players, not playing for the team etc (all paraphrasing btw). Seems all to familiar
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The problem here is that for every Fergie there are a hundred failures. For every manager who suddenly exceeds expectations after 2 seasons, there are dozens who never turn it around. Football is a massively expensive business and unfortunately if your players aren't turning up for the manager you get someone new in.
 
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Enjoying the reports (similar murmurings around Sancho handling) of some players not liking ETH's authoritarian approach... was the molly coddled lovey dovey Ole not right either? They are, by every account, a bunch of entitled childlike losers who shouldn't be listened to and their gravy train ended.

As long as we're not in a relegation scrap ETH should be stuck with til we get a reshape of the structure and the clubs put on a different (hopefully right) path by Radcliffe. I'll be done with this club if they fire ETH (or he walks) as it shows a lack of accountability from the squad and importantly the higher ups.
 
I don't think I could ever support another team. I'd happily just watch teams that play attractive football though.
 
Fubsy said:
I don't think I could ever support another team. I'd happily just watch teams that play attractive football though.
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I've been far more concerned about watching good football than watching United for a while now. I will tune in for big CL games, big league games and I don't care whos playing.
 
ETH will still be here at the end of the season. Sacking him is just lunacy (and expensive to start all over again).

He's a good manager, dealing with a lot of injuries currently (not an excuse, just facts), but as other have said - the shambles "above" him in terms of the structure of the club/the owners/the lack of investment in the ground/training complex is staggeringly bad.

It's horrible at the moment - United are just drifting along without any form of action plan/ideas from the top. Glaziers don't care, never have, never will. From the moment they took over the club and just lumped a ton of debt onto United, it's been take the dividends out, let the clubs commercial revenue pay for it.

Now it's really caught up with them - yes - they've spent big transfer fees, but the lack of investment into the ground, the club structure, the youth development is unreal. When was the last time a United youngster really cemented their place in the side??..... 10 years ago probably when Rashford appeared.

Carrying FAR to many passengers in the squad but on big money, they aren't going anywhere.

Utter shambles from top to bottom at the moment. Worst time ever to be supporting United in my 45 years+
 
sithlord said:
Is Sancho still being paid while he continues his feud with ETH. Why dont they have something in the contract that reduces wages for disciplinary reasons ?
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Why would he not be? as long as he is making himself available to be selected for matches and turns up for training, even if it's late and with the under 11s that's all that's required to be paid.
 
Robbo said:
There's a lot in the media about Ten Hag this morning. General consensus is that there are concerns but he's not in immediate danger and the ownership situation further complicates things. All as you'd expect.

However, we can discuss it all we like, but if this form continues he'll be gone at the next international break - I think that will be the crucial moment.

Next fixtures -

Fulham (Away) - tomorrow at 12:30
Copenhagen (Away) - Wed 8th
Luton (Home) - Sat 11th
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December will be a difficult month for United in terms of fixtures. With Newcastle, Liverpool and West Ham, away, Chelsea, Bayern and Villa, at home. So, gaining some form and momentum during November will be vita if ETH has any chance of retaining his position at United.
 
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