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I would suggest a large part of that is just a retort to the people who will defend Rashford because he did the school meals campaign.
I can't say I've ever seen or heard somebody say "yes he was **** but he did help feed school kids" before. I have however seen and heard lots of comments about "if only he spent more time concentrating on football instead of feeding kids.....". It's just mad. It has no impact on his football and why on earth would anybody spin him doing something very noble as a negative to beat him with it? Like I said in my post, he's just become a big exaggeration where he's either better than Mbappe or a disgrace - there never seems to be a middle ground with him for some reason.
I'm not going to defend him because he's not played well and there have been times where it doesn't look like he's trying as hard as he could but from time to time I do remember that footballers are humans and just like you or I, sometimes we're just having a hard time and we can't bring ourselves to go the extra mile. I've had plenty of days where I've left things for another day at work because I'm feeling a bit tired or just generally can't be arsed. I'd imagine a PL player that's getting dogs abuse from both the press and supporters sometimes feels the same way too.
All he has to do is look at Holjund, even when he wasn’t scoring he was knocking his ******** in, chasing, pressing - just generally trying his hardest. Rashford doesn’t even seem to show an ounce of effort when things aren’t going his way.
Mad that someone hasn’t had a word with him in private - maybe we need a knew Roy Keane type telling people when they are being ***** on the pitch
Normally, I'm in agreement with you because your posts (and Fez) are very sensible and measured. But I can't agree with it being the same. Their job consists of training sessions that then build to a specific time, the game that week. And in our case, it is like one a week now. Fine, maybe not have his head in the right space for a training session or two leading up to it, but come on, Baz, it's 90+ minutes where he has to focus 100%. It's not day in, day out in an office environment or similar AND for insane money. I'm sure I could do my best even if I didn't feel up to it.
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As I said, I wasn't trying to defend him as such because he could do more but more trying to look for a reason why he's like the way he is at the moment. And while I accept it's not exactly the same as you or I at work, equally we don't have national newspapers and 1000s upon 1000s of supporters abusing us too.
The one thing I (sometimes) try to remind myself when I'm criticising a players commitment is that the biggest reason why they're a player and I'm a supporter is they were probably more committed than I was to being a footballer while growing up. There must be a reason why that commitment has waned. In some cases money, fame etc might be the reason but I don't really see that in Rashford. Going back some seasons I remember Rashford getting abuse from Utd fans when leaving OT and he reacted to it - somebody that doesn't care wouldn't have reacted the way he did and I get the impression that he struggles with the criticism and abuse he receives.
I guess. I just think, based on the fact he’s been a footballer a long time, and while it doesn’t make it right, he should sort of have developed a thicker skin by now. And he and his team should know that directly addressing the accusations against his work rate and commitment only stokes the fire more.
He needs to do part of the modern game which is put in a shift while not being an idiot and going on a bender and calling in sick. Knowing full well it would be reported. He’s supposed to be a professional and it happened earlier in the season, so should have known better anyway.
It’s silly, and considering he’s new to the team and younger, but he should take a leaf out of Højlund’s book.
But, end of the day, we’re all human, I guess. But grinds my gears a little all the same. He just needs to knuckle down, but based off how he has always been, he’ll be up and down like a bloody yoyo.
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He was brought up by his mother iirc and never had that father figure from what I have seen. The family unit needs that male touch sometimes to give his son a kick up the backside sometimes.
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As a neutral that's one of the best episodes yet. The insight is terrific, especially surrounding the transfers at the time. Seems like a lovely, humble guy who owns his mistakes.
Just finished watching it. A really good insight. Whilst he was never going to be a Klopp etc but his record wasn't that bad and we played better football than we do under Erik. Generally we are quick to describe players/ex players as legendary but he deserves the monicker - not just for that goal but for the 125 other goals he score. Left foot, right foot, head. A class act and the greatest super sub to play for United. Respect to you Ole.
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I would actually just give up on football if that happened. Possibly the worst manager around, it would be typical of us to get him
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Iv'e said my piece on Ole plenty, but i'd like to pick up that i think it's slightly miss-sighted to say we played better football under him. I would say i've seen far better interplay and cohesiveness since ETH took over than with Ole.
I wouldn't know how to (or have the energy) to pull up a bunch of stats but i think from the eye we are more of a team now than we were under Ole.
Another factor of the Ole era for me is that the league IMO is far higher a standard now than when he was in charge. There wasn't the same standard at Brighton, Spurs, Arsenal, Aston Villa, etc.
Some food thought.
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I think people forget how awful things became under Ole and with Ronaldo etc. Honestly, the first 5 months or so under Ole were great. We had a good combination. It was a combination of Mourinhos coaching and tactics with Oles feel good and freedom for the players. We played really good counter attacking football. It all fell apart as he slowly tried to turn us into a team that controlled and dictated matches though. By the end it was dire. I haven't got to the point with EtH that I did with Ole which says something. We are tepid under EtH but we were dire under Ole. Ole didn't have the excuse of having most of his back 4 missing for much of the season either.
I think EtH will be gone at the end of the season but its still not as bad as the end under Ole.