The most middle-class first-world problems...

No matter how nice my situation is I wouldn't class myself as middle class (my dad was a lecturer then had a h&s business and called himself working class) or want to join such a group ;) but to play along, next doors cat keeps hiding in my potting shed) it's a building not a shed but hey ho)
 
The specific type of puncture resistant tyre I want for my road bike is out of stock, so I'm having to slum it with a slightly lesser brand

(Genuine issue)
 
I ordered a LEGO Saturn V from amazon (eu) and it's gonna take over a week to arrive. It could get to the moon and back quicker than that.

I mean, it could do that, but the only part you’d get back would be the command module and the astronauts, which seems like a waste of money...
 
The UK is more like a 2nd world country these days ;) Just ask any of us plebs living in squalor at the bottom of the pile :p
 
(about to get flamed...)

I get amazed at the way people seem to "want" to be working class and, protesting greatly that they're not middle class...

working class = living hand to mouth, "down in t' pit" and would now be reliant on food banks.
middle class = (gaming) pc, netflix (tv subscription), has hobbies and overseas holidays - ultimately, has disposable income...

at the end of the day, if you've got disposable income, even if you're working 5 days a week, you're middle class (when you consider the traditional/proper "working class" of working down in the mines etc.). I'm not saying there aren't working class people these days, as shown by the prevalence of food banks, but the minimum wage and forcing us to stay in school longer, has elevated the old factory workers from a hand-to-mouth situation to what was effectively middle-class, with education, overseas holidays, hobbies and possibly a new(ish) cars on the drive. Hell, what would likely be the modern-day working class jobs, we as a nation almost seem to refuse to do, and want people from overseas to do (cleaners, fruit-pickers, etc.)

Or have I got the wrong impression?
 
A comedian did a hilarious "middle class dilemma" routine about asparagus tips and food waste. They wouldn't eat more than the tips because "I'm not a monster!"

I think it was on "Mock The Week". Years ago now and the details escape me. That's bugging me, so I seek the wisdom of GD. Does it ring a bell with anyone?
 
(about to get flamed...)

I get amazed at the way people seem to "want" to be working class and, protesting greatly that they're not middle class...

working class = living hand to mouth, "down in t' pit" and would now be reliant on food banks.
middle class = (gaming) pc, netflix (tv subscription), has hobbies and overseas holidays - ultimately, has disposable income...

at the end of the day, if you've got disposable income, even if you're working 5 days a week, you're middle class (when you consider the traditional/proper "working class" of working down in the mines etc.). I'm not saying there aren't working class people these days, as shown by the prevalence of food banks, but the minimum wage and forcing us to stay in school longer, has elevated the old factory workers from a hand-to-mouth situation to what was effectively middle-class, with education, overseas holidays, hobbies and possibly a new(ish) cars on the drive. Hell, what would likely be the modern-day working class jobs, we as a nation almost seem to refuse to do, and want people from overseas to do (cleaners, fruit-pickers, etc.)

Or have I got the wrong impression?


This is quite interesting as I have said I definitely don't class myself as middle class, own very nice house bought outright and a half share in another 5 figure current accounts but a manual worker, I don't think you have to use a food bank to be working class :p maybe it's my age but I see middle class as Margo and Gerry from The good life, ie upper management doctor, lawyer ect detached in a leafy suburb, a Bt engeneer on 50 k I would still see as working class.
Again this is just my perception but a lot in this thread I am not taking as middle class just as they have Netflix and go to corfu on their holidays :p
 
I ran out of my Costa Rican espresso ground coffee and had to resort to my emergency Lavazza Rossa stash.

The handle fell off my stainless steel milk frothing jug and I had to use a cup whilst a new one was delivered, the shame was unbearable.
 
This is quite interesting as I have said I definitely don't class myself as middle class, own very nice house bought outright and a half share in another 5 figure current accounts but a manual worker, I don't think you have to use a food bank to be working class :p maybe it's my age but I see middle class as Margo and Gerry from The good life, ie upper management doctor, lawyer ect detached in a leafy suburb, a Bt engeneer on 50 k I would still see as working class.
Again this is just my perception but a lot in this thread I am not taking as middle class just as they have Netflix and go to corfu on their holidays :p


Earning 170% of the UK median salary certainly puts you in middle class.

If you were working class then ylu wouldn't have the disposable income to consider a foreign vacation, perhaps the cheapest package holiday to Benidorm once in a while.



But the class system is just a bit outdated. More natural to look at incomein general, education, status
 
Roots also I guess my daughter is a scientist (Dr) NHSX but definitely classes herself as working class, I am on under a tenner an hour but good with money, housing choices ect but definitely working class
Edit/ nhsx
 
(about to get flamed...)

I get amazed at the way people seem to "want" to be working class and, protesting greatly that they're not middle class...

working class = living hand to mouth, "down in t' pit" and would now be reliant on food banks.
middle class = (gaming) pc, netflix (tv subscription), has hobbies and overseas holidays - ultimately, has disposable income...

at the end of the day, if you've got disposable income, even if you're working 5 days a week, you're middle class (when you consider the traditional/proper "working class" of working down in the mines etc.). I'm not saying there aren't working class people these days, as shown by the prevalence of food banks, but the minimum wage and forcing us to stay in school longer, has elevated the old factory workers from a hand-to-mouth situation to what was effectively middle-class, with education, overseas holidays, hobbies and possibly a new(ish) cars on the drive. Hell, what would likely be the modern-day working class jobs, we as a nation almost seem to refuse to do, and want people from overseas to do (cleaners, fruit-pickers, etc.)

Or have I got the wrong impression?

Not so much the disposable income but I know loads of what would have been working class people who have the latest console + all the accessories, multiple streaming service subscriptions, latest phone, hobbies and overseas holidays but working 16 hours a week, on UC, living in social/council housing and barely have any money outside of that and probably a lot of stuff on finance.

TBH a lot of what you refer to as modern-day working class jobs the reasons people refuse to do them are mixed and not necessarily because people won't do those jobs - we have tons of people through the winter in the warehouse at work who'd rather be working outside but refuse to do those jobs due to the poor treatment they've experienced as an employee in far too many of those jobs - I'm sure it isn't every case but seems far too many owners/managers/bosses in those kind of industries are still one or both feet in the past and/or just not up to managing people in the modern era - treat their employees poorly, not always a great approach to health and safety and put under increasing strain due to having to work at short notice and/or longer hours to make up for people who get fed up and leave suddenly.

As these people generally are quite happy to knuckle down pull a long shift in the warehouse I tend to believe them though I don't have experience of it for myself.
 
Went to make some toast for breakfast just now, and realised that on my last shop I'd picked up strawberry conserve, rather than raspberry. I like strawberry, but I much prefer raspberry.

I'm not sure how I will get through this. Got to stay strong. Sad reacts only pls :(
 
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