The National Rifle Association of the United Kingdom

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That was 150 rounds, standing, 25 meters with a Smith & Wesson.22 semi with open sights.

The bottom right one way off I knew as soon as I pulled the trigger that would be off.
 
Some big boy rifles in module 2. First a scoped 308 (Savage) which was a lot of fun, now up to 100 yards with a focus on adjusting the scope to make the bullet land elsewhere despite aiming for the centre of the target (we had to make 8" adjustments to shoot a box shape). Also tried an AR15 which I'm glad I got to try but didn't really do much for me. The Enfield was a surprise though, especially trying it prone with just my arms and iron sights - punchy. We're up to 600 yards for the next module, further developing scope use/adjustment including the wind.
 
Interesting stuff, I've always liked shooty things but have only owned/shot air rifles and paintball markers. How much does the training at Bisley cost?
 
Von Luck said:
Interesting stuff, I've always liked shooty things but have only owned/shot air rifles and paintball markers. How much does the training at Bisley cost?
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It's not cheap especially if you're not local (had to get a pricey taxi as public transport was buggered at the time of the morning, but there are cheap rooms to rent on site). ~£100 to join/annual membership + 6 x £112 for the 6 modules. In terms of the content/education you get, I think it's relatively well priced but my situation meant I had to join and book the first few modules in quick succession so it hit my wallet hard. The modules consist of a classroom environment for 1-2 hours for the first few, followed by time on the range trying the various rifles. I think one or two of the modules are full shoot days and they also make you run your own (range) shoot with fellow attendees.

Edit - and then you can come to Bisley or other ranges for shoot days, competitions, alone time etc. There are a number of specialities to get into. Match Rifle does not look fun - what a weird way to hold your rifle and compete.

 
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doodah said:
Match Rifle does not look fun - what a weird way to hold your rifle and compete.
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you don’t have to lie like that in match rifle… unless you have buckets of cash avoid match rifle and F class!

I would advise you to join a local club, you will generally get equivalent training for free and typically will cost between £100-200 a year.

Bisley is great as you can easily get range space out to 1000 yards and there is lots of activity during peek season. But you won’t get much individual support to improve without paying for it.

you don’t have to be a member to shoot a Bisley if your club is affiliated.
 
Bisley is a great place for anyone who shoots. I’ve taken part in a load of UKPSA and IPAS competitions there (although not for some years) and the annual Phoenix meeting is well worth a visit.

When I last stayed there the ‘rooms’ were like holiday camp chalets from the 1960s but there was a big group of us, we had a BBQ and a few bevvies so it wasn’t too bad.
 
@crazyDAJT - ah thanks for the clarification :).

Module 3 and 4 complete, synced these ones with my friend who first told me all about this. We upped the distance to 600 yards in module 3 using both Vernier sights and a scope on a .308 rifle. I was a bit worried with just the sights as I could barely make out the large target numbers (I need glasses) but did fairly well accuracy wise and grouping. With the switch over to 600 yards, we also started using the electronic targets - so much easier. Also learned the basics of wind reading and applying appropriate adjustments.

Module 4 went even further, now 1000 yards and boy was it a windy and cold day. Glad I went first in my group as our electronic target stopped working so we had to stop early by the 4th or 5th person. Again, pleased with my grouping (pic below), though I need to do better at converting wind direction into Minutes of Angle.

Me and the .308 - my positioning isn't great here but think I corrected (needed to be more behind the rifle).



My friend on the .308





Most of the day on module 4 was theory and exams. The first test being an 40 question MCQ, pass rate was 30 (though irrelevant if you got the first question on the 4 safety rules wrong) and I got 35. That was fine but the harder and more pressure inducing test was having to prove we could handle, load and fire 4 different firearms under test conditions:
  • AR15 - fine
  • Ruger - I just can't get on with this rifle though I know why now. The little latch to release or hold the bolt, most people use their index finger to do so (it is known for being a little janky). For some reason the way mine is shaped, it just doesn't play ball when pushing or applying pressure.
  • Marlin - fine
  • Misfire drill with a .308 - fine
So I've passed my tests :) and 2 more modules to go which are essentially full shoot days I think. The .308 is still my favourite. I like its simplistic and methodical mechanism, feels good and very satisfying landing a good shot so far away. Again, need to work on my consistency, my positioning behind the rifle and sack off the beanbag I initially used for rear support.

Already planning a summer's afternoon on the 1000 yard rang, hire one .308 with my friend and see how many holes we can make in paper.
 
doodah said:
@crazyDAJT

Already planning a summer's afternoon on the 1000 yard rang, hire one .308 with my friend and see how many holes we can make in paper.
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Again I highly recommend you join a local club or even a club on site at Bisley.

1000 yards is fun but can be very frustrating if you don’t have somebody to help get going. You will make a lot more progress quickly with a club’s support. Most clubs will be more than happy to help you and let you borrow club kit.
 
crazyDAJT said:
Again I highly recommend you join a local club or even a club on site at Bisley.

1000 yards is fun but can be very frustrating if you don’t have somebody to help get going. You will make a lot more progress quickly with a club’s support. Most clubs will be more than happy to help you and let you borrow club kit.
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Yeah, apologies forgot about your previous recommendation and totally makes sense, as it definitely would seem daunting to go from module 6 straight into the wild. Turns out there are two clubs not too far from me so will look into those along with Bisley :).
 
Would you guys buy a Chinese rifle?

Thinking about getting a "Norinco" bolt action .22, I'm worried it might be made of "chinesium" but not everything Chinese is necessarily bad.
 
Might get one of these:


I know everyone will say just buy a 10/22, but this thing is so cool and I think I'd rather regret it, in 6 months or a year, then not know.

You can actually still get authentic M1 carbines, but they shoot .30 carbine, which I reckon you might struggle to find, or get the dies for. I need to do more research.
 
This ended up in my recommended videos.
i used to be a cnc waterjetter and often cut through 6 inch steel with water and sand but this looks more fun tbh

 
I’ve done quite a bit of sporting clays, a mate has done days at Bisley and he seemed to feel it’s a little static as they don't move the course around much.
Local place changes every session. Ended up him getting himself a silver pigeon and i looked at blasers with an interest in fitas but the mrs isn’t keen on having a firearm in the house.
Typical was expensive but another mate has shotgun and moved to long distance shooting. The price per shot is eye watering.
 
BUDFORCE said:
Might get one of these:


I know everyone will say just buy a 10/22, but this thing is so cool and I think I'd rather regret it, in 6 months or a year, then not know.

You can actually still get authentic M1 carbines, but they shoot .30 carbine, which I reckon you might struggle to find, or get the dies for. I need to do more research.
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I personally would get a M&P15-22

authentic M1 would be section 5 as they are semi auto and above 22 cal. There is a uk company making straight pull M1 in 30-06 that are fun to shoot
 
crazyDAJT said:
I personally would get a M&P15-22

authentic M1 would be section 5 as they are semi auto and above 22 cal. There is a uk company making straight pull M1 in 30-06 that are fun to shoot
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They got straight pull conversions so are ok under on section 1. But regardless I reckon you'd struggle to get .30 carbine ammo, or the heads and dies if you wanted to make it yourself.

The club has an m&p15-22 and they are indeed actually a pretty good gun, even the club gun and most are ropey as hell, that one isn't bad. I love the open sights on it.

I've put an order in for that Chiappa probably pick it up tomorrow, we'll see, if it turns out it's complete ****, well lesson learned, I'm happy to take a chance.
 
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