The next Conservative Leader thread.

a1ex2001 · 2 Jul 2016 at 08:04

Quartz said:
There won't be an election in October. We've got fixed term parliaments now. Remember that we elect MPs, not governments.

dowie said:
What general election? It isn't until 2020....

While it is unlikely and would frankly be stupid in the current climate if the new leader of the Conservative party wants an election he could probably engineer the two thirds of MP's required to vote in favour fixed terms are not totally fixed!

Cosimo · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:14

LiE said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...dership/?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Glad Gove isn't doing well.

Just getting what he deserves. :cool:

Destination · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:17

When is the first round of conservative voting?

SpeedFreak · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:20

I am pleased he looks to be out of the running. Unbelievably he has given up an almost certain Deputy PM role for a 2% shot at the top job.

a1ex2001 · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:28

SpeedFreak said:
I am pleased he looks to be out of the running. Unbelievably he has given up an almost certain Deputy PM role for a 2% shot at the top job.

Still can't decide if it is part of some longer term Boris scheme, Gove takes the fall now in exchange for a reward later? Otherwise he looks to be turning from high flyer into John redwood!

Dr Jack · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:31

SpeedFreak said:
I am pleased he looks to be out of the running. Unbelievably he has given up an almost certain Deputy PM role for a 2% shot at the top job.

Or he just wanted to ensure Boris didn't get the job. I'm not sure.

RDM · 2 Jul 2016 at 09:47

a1ex2001 said:
While it is unlikely and would frankly be stupid in the current climate if the new leader of the Conservative party wants an election he could probably engineer the two thirds of MP's required to vote in favour fixed terms are not totally fixed!

No new election will be called until the changes to constituency boundaries are done to equalise the sizes of constituencies. It doesn't make sense to go to the polls until you have removed the current bias from the system.

dowie · 2 Jul 2016 at 11:00

a1ex2001 said:
While it is unlikely and would frankly be stupid in the current climate if the new leader of the Conservative party wants an election he could probably engineer the two thirds of MP's required to vote in favour fixed terms are not totally fixed!

well the current favorite is already on record as stating brexit will occur and there will be no early general election.... and though we can't really trust politicians it really wouldn't be in her interests

Quartz · 2 Jul 2016 at 13:20

Here's a hit job on May; stupidly she tried to suppress it.

a1ex2001 · 2 Jul 2016 at 13:39

RDM said:
No new election will be called until the changes to constituency boundaries are done to equalise the sizes of constituencies. It doesn't make sense to go to the polls until you have removed the current bias from the system.

Unless that bias plays in your favour, or you feel that you have something to gain, or the position of the government becomes untenable without a new mandate. Hence parliament with a 2/3rds majority can call an election at anytime.

dowie said:
well the current favorite is already on record as stating brexit will occur and there will be no early general election.... and though we can't really trust politicians it really wouldn't be in her interests

As I said while it's not impossible it is extremely unlikely, I was merely responding to those that implied fixed term parliaments make it impossible

Greebo · 2 Jul 2016 at 16:15

God I hope Leadsom doesnt win. SHe wants us totally out of the EU including the single market

the UK should not pursue single market membership....the UK economy is too large to need the single market

SO no trade negotiations needed on Brexit, just straight into the WTO.

PermaBanned · 2 Jul 2016 at 17:09

Greebo said:
SO now trade negotiations needed on Brexit, just straight into the WTO.

We'll have to renegotiate our WTO membership as well, as that is based on our EU membership.

Judgeneo · 2 Jul 2016 at 17:37

PM? No, ta.

Greebo · 2 Jul 2016 at 17:46

PermaBanned said:
We'll have to renegotiate our WTO membership as well, as that is based on our EU membership.

Well okay we have to do that though.

I can't believe she has so much support yet absolutely wants to cease all free access to the EU.

Personally I think that will be an economic disaster.

UTmaniac · 2 Jul 2016 at 17:50

Someone tell Michael Portillo to stand!

V F · 2 Jul 2016 at 17:54

UTmaniac said:
Someone tell Michael Portillo to stand!

With Del Boy attire? Green shirt and red trousers.

RDM · 2 Jul 2016 at 18:22

a1ex2001 said:
Unless that bias plays in your favour, or you feel that you have something to gain, or the position of the government becomes untenable without a new mandate. Hence parliament with a 2/3rds majority can call an election at anytime.

As I said while it's not impossible it is extremely unlikely, I was merely responding to those that implied fixed term parliaments make it impossible

The bias is in Labour's favour. Finishing off the boundary changes will make it considerably easier for the conservatives to win. I would expect to see that done first before any snap election.

Tosno · 2 Jul 2016 at 18:24

Liam Fox FTW!

Merlin5 · 2 Jul 2016 at 18:30

UTmaniac said:
Someone tell Michael Portillo to stand!

Maybe he can hand out copies of George Bradshaw's continental railway guide to redirect the migrants.

Destination · 2 Jul 2016 at 19:19

Greebo said:
God I hope Leadsom doesnt win. SHe wants us totally out of the EU including the single market
SO no trade negotiations needed on Brexit, just straight into the WTO.

How does she expect our banks to function in a European marketplace?
Or do we just lose that source of tax revenue?
Does zero relationship with Europe stand to any form of scrutiny?