****The Nintendo 3DS Thread****

a hand held that's more pricey than a home console less powerful hardware than a ipod touch 4g, 5 year old graphics chip and gimmicky3d screen , admittedly ive herd very little on peoples opinion on this front bar the effect is loss unless your looking dead on the screen straight, but the effect might not even work at all for some like with other 3d tech?

Same old Nintendo rash's of old franchises, so what dose the 3DS add to portable gaming bar the "3d" gimmick. I'll be far more forgiving is the hand held was more in line with there current hardware.
 
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That does sound a bit steep. I would imagine them to be around the same as current DS £30 games but we'll have to see. Apart from Spirit Tracks I don't think I've ever bought a DS game on release. Usually wait for them to come down or buy pre-owned.
 
You guys do realise this isn't a "5 year old graphics chip" don't you? This is a brand new step up the same as a PSP > PSP2. It's not an addition like the DS > DSi. :confused:
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
You guys do realise this isn't a "5 year old graphics chip" don't you? This is a brand new step up the same as a PSP > PSP2. It's not an addition like the DS > DSi. :confused:
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Ignore them, its the same old crowd that has a chip on their shoulder about Nintendo (you know fan girls :p )
 
I still just plain don't get Nintendo's strategy with the 3DS.

The Wii and DS Lite were such a success because:
  • They made a profit
  • Were cheap - DS at a price point for parents to buy kids, Wii at a good price point for the family
  • Appealed to this "increasing the gaming population" demographic
  • Had an easy to use novelty (for most people) at the time - Wii Remote & Touchscreen + Stylus

This machine has the novelty & profit margins for Nintendo, but it sure isn't cheap and quite frankly with the games seems to be aimed at the "hardcore" gamer.

Now since I am never one to write off Nintendo, my only explanation is this:

1) High price + gaming lineup = Nice profits from the hardcore early adopters
2) Said early adopters actually show the system to friends, people go "wow"
3) People/kids can't afford it. Creates a little bit of gadget lust
4) Within about a year, release 3DS Lite. Looks far better, long enough battery life (and doing away with that it-sure-doesn't-bode-well dock for price cutting/profit increasing awesomeness)
5) Release Brain Training etc.
6) People go crazy

I just don't really understand why they're doing that. I'm sure at a lower price point and better design it'll be like the Wii all over again.

Call me paranoid but the design is far too like the original DS and just screams "We're doing this so we can make a better designed one later so you buy another one" :p

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Well with the original DS didn't that have the same issues (excluding the price). For example, hmmm why would anyone want to play games with a touch screen etc.

The problem Nintendo has now is how to 1 up themselves and 3D is probably one of the only ways for the mainstream market. But its just too soon to have 3D at an affordable price without either having hardware similar to the DS, smaller screens or general rough technology. I mean even a DSi with a 3D screen would probably add a fair bit to development costs.

Another problem is that it hasn't proven its self, if you look at some of the game trailers Nintendo games look to be designed with 3D in mind hence Kid Icarus and Paper Mario effects yet most of the other games (which is expected for 1st gen launch titles) seem to have the "3D tack-on" that Call Of Duty is so famously know for (lolwut?) and on a handheld console that experience is probably even worse.

Again I'll mention the price is great IMO for the technology such as the large 3D screen, 3D camera, game system and such but it's a terrible price for a handheld gaming system.
 
Fillado said:
I still just plain don't get Nintendo's strategy with the 3DS.

The Wii and DS Lite were such a success because:
  • They made a profit
  • Were cheap - DS at a price point for parents to buy kids, Wii at a good price point for the family
  • Appealed to this "increasing the gaming population" demographic
  • Had an easy to use novelty (for most people) at the time - Wii Remote & Touchscreen + Stylus

This machine has the novelty & profit margins for Nintendo, but it sure isn't cheap and quite frankly with the games seems to be aimed at the "hardcore" gamer.

Now since I am never one to write off Nintendo, my only explanation is this:

1) High price + gaming lineup = Nice profits from the hardcore early adopters
2) Said early adopters actually show the system to friends, people go "wow"
3) People/kids can't afford it. Creates a little bit of gadget lust
4) Within about a year, release 3DS Lite. Looks far better, long enough battery life (and doing away with that it-sure-doesn't-bode-well dock for price cutting/profit increasing awesomeness)
5) Release Brain Training etc.
6) People go crazy

I just don't really understand why they're doing that. I'm sure at a lower price point and better design it'll be like the Wii all over again.

Call me paranoid but the design is far too like the original DS and just screams "We're doing this so we can make a better designed one later so you buy another one" :p

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This isn't Nintendo's pricing strategy, like any console on release it's priced higher than what it will eventually sell for as people (like me) have to get it on release.

Personally I don't mind paying it, as the product is worthwhile for me as I do more portable gaming now than I used to.

The price will come down.
 
XPE said:
My biggest problem is still the launch line up there is nothing that reaches out and grabs me, no zelda, sratfox, revelations or mgs3. while RE mercs looks good its not a system seller for me.
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This is my problem as well, we want some new games for launch, so i've not bothered to put in a pre order yet.
 
5punk3monk3y said:
Been thinking of getting this for my seven year old and she respects what she has BUT kids have an urge to point and touch things, so I'm guessing the 3d effect will be totally ruined by finger prints on the screen.
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+ will kids keep still enough to make the 3D effect work?
 
maxilive said:
Again I'll mention the price is great IMO for the technology such as the large 3D screen, 3D camera, game system and such but it's a terrible price for a handheld gaming system.
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Oh don't get me wrong, for the technology that's in there it looks like it'll be a cracking machine. Nintendo has seriously surprised me with the HUGE social/connectivity things going on with the system (despite the impact on battery life some of it will have ;) ).

Is the screen really that "large"? It's only 800×240 in 3D mode dropping to 400x240 in 2D. I wouldn't really know how to compare 800x240 in 3D (since it's per eye you would have 2 x (400 x 240) pixels wouldn't you?) to a 2D screen but for example an iPod touch is 960×640.

Nickg said:
No he means Nintendo make a profit from the start on the hardware whereas Sony for example sell for a loss initially even if their console costs more in an absolute sense.
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That

vonhelmet said:
Nintendo aren't intending to stop selling the DSi in order to sell this, so the idea that they are giving up on targeting the mainstream doesn't really hold water.
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Oh i'm not saying they are stopping the mainstream thing. Just (after having a quick read about it) this launch seems very similar to the launch of the original DS. Appealing to Nintendo's more hardcore audience. So I'm not complaining as it looks better in my eyes :D It's just a little confusing following the success of the Wii & DS Lite.

It could be that (like with the original DS and to a lesser extent the Wii) Nintendo are just plain unsure how the 3D will be taken by the public. So they are treading carefully like with the original DS, not taking too much away from current sales, and can either big it up if it's selling well or kill it off quietly if it isn't.
 
I'm concerned with the fact that it can damage children's eyes.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/infoExperience.html said:
Vision of children under the age of six has been said that the developmental stage, experts, as well as] [Nintendo 3DS, 3D, including 3D movies and television, delivers 3D images with different left and right eye images The view that has a potential impact on the growth of children's eyes.
To avoid the impact of 3D visual images of children, Nintendo 3DS [2D] does become available so we switched to video, enough for everyone to enjoy.

Additionally, [Nintendo 3DS, by comparison, so you play with your child with confidence parents, "Limiting use parental controls (3 ※)" as one of, 3D incorporates a mechanism to limit the display of images We.

Set to be carried out using this feature, enter your PIN unless parents are predetermined, 3D images are not displayed, 2D has been switched to the video display system.

Children under 6 years [when] Nintendo 3DS played a "limited capability for use by parents," We would like you to use your.
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Google Translate :D In other words, they recommend 2D mode for children.
 
I also read that experts have disagreed with Nintendo's warning and they could have just warned against children playing it as a precaution to cover themselves against retarded parents coming out and saying that the 3DS has damaged their childrens sight.

In response to Nintendo's recommendation that children under six should only use the system in 2D mode, a number of specialists have told The New York Times that 3D visuals present no threat to youngsters' vision.

"The fact you'd watch 3D in a theater or a video game should have zero deleterious impact whatsoever," said Dr. Lawrence Tychsen, a professor of pediatrics and ophthalmology at Washington University in St. Louis.

David Granet, a pediatric ophthalmologist at the University of California at San Diego added "I don't think that parents need to worry about kids playing video games, 3D or otherwise, from a vision perspective. The bigger question for parents is: Do you really want your three-year-old playing a video game?"

The American Optometric Association has gone one step further. It issued a statement today claiming that watching 3D visuals can actually be beneficial to kids' development.

The body declared that the 3DS "isn't necessarily bad for adults or children" and that "3D viewing may actually help uncover subtle disorders that, left uncorrected, often result in learning difficulties".
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Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-05-experts-3ds-wont-blind-toddlers
 
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